Query About Epa

[HIZOKU]

You can take it to court.

However lets be honest, how many people really are "legal". Very very few.

Please tell me how to take EPA to court i was told i could not

as when my evo i got a EPA at one location and then a police statement of me being involved in a car accident in the same car at the same diff location about 40min drive away and i could still not fight this

[R31Nismoid]

Freedom of Information laws.

They allow you to find out where/who it was that reported you. I would imagine then - with a good lawyer, something could be done or some sorta action taken with that information against the individual for making false allegations or along that line.

So like i said, fair amount of effort.

[Drift SX]

YES you can get a '3rd strike fine'. My mate copped 3 EPAs (none for noise) and yes on the 3rd one he was going to have to pay a ~$600 fine if he was to clear it.

From what I remember the fine was not actually for not complying with emissions; it was a fine for putting stock stuff back on and trying to 'trick' the EPA upon inspection, despite the fact they had photo evidence of the highmount GT30 and External Gate not plumbed in

The car is no longer street registered.

And that person would be me lol, the second and third time i got done i recieved a $584 fine, almost $1200 down the drain. Offence: VEHICLE NOT MAINTAINED IN SUCH A WAY THAT EMISSION CONTROL DEVICES OR EQUIPMENT CONTINUE TO OPERATE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE MANUFACTURER'S DESIGN. I got to know the boys down at EPA after a while lol, nice guys, they actually told me that i should attempt to hide all my mods from the 5-0 and/or throw an RB26 in it!!

Unfortunately if you recieve one of these fines there's no way out of it, even if you de-reg. The police officer that pulled me over last time told me rules are changing and it's going to become harder and harder for us guys to drive around with modded cars, he also stated that these days they have to take pics which they then send off to EPA. So even though i changed everything back to stock they still had photo evidence...

As Mat stated above these were not noise specific tests, they were notices to present vehicle at an EPA station at which they carry out an emissions test and exhaust noise test. If you just get a noise test then your in the clear. If anyone needs any more EPA info I got it all, hahaha, have had some very large discussions with both EPA and the Police.

As Ash said "how many people really are "legal". Very very few." No point fighting if you were in the wrong. Last thing, i was informed by the EPA that if i was to get done one more time they would take me to court, something i really need to avoid.

[R31Nismoid]

Did Lou tell you to do a 26? lol... its what i did for the 31 back when... he was shocked i actually went and did it.

As you said, they are good guys at the EPA and if you go down there and leave your attitude at home they can be very insightful

[Birds]

EPA = nice sympathetic people, all but those who write the regulations. Police who go out of their way to enforce EPA regulations = ****s. EPA staffer agreed with me over the phone that my situation was bullshit and the bureaucratic process is silly.

Also, the workshop I cleared mine at said Skylines were the most popular EPA victim. Their books were full of them.

[Drift SX]

Did Lou tell you to do a 26? lol... its what i did for the 31 back when... he was shocked i actually went and did it.

As you said, they are good guys at the EPA and if you go down there and leave your attitude at home they can be very insightful

He sure did, nice guy Lou, could of chatted with him all day lol

[HIZOKU]

Freedom of Information laws.

They allow you to find out where/who it was that reported you. I would imagine then - with a good lawyer, something could be done or some sorta action taken with that information against the individual for making false allegations or along that line.

So like i said, fair amount of effort.

i brought this up, as i said i have the right to see my accused but nope was told i would not see them maybe i just had a dick head on the phone

[R31Nismoid]

Like i said - Freedom of Information.

There is a set process you need to follow, look it up.

You can't just call and say you want to know. It needs to be formalised etc.

[HIZOKU]

Well EPA Suck

To the girlfriends car in for EPA test

Failed due to external waste gate.

Would love to know how a stock s15 sr20 POO has external waste gate guy at shop would not even show me this so called waste gate so dont know what to do

[krzysiu]

Post a pic of your engine bay near the turbo

[HIZOKU]

Why would i do that? it a stock car

the dump pipe is stock it does not have a screamer pipe the front pipe is stock

and i know what a screamer pipe looks like got one on r32 and i know what external gate looks like got one on the jzx81

[russ123]

Well EPA Suck

To the girlfriends car in for EPA test

Failed due to external waste gate.

Would love to know how a stock s15 sr20 POO has external waste gate guy at shop would not even show me this so called waste gate so dont know what to do

if you were 100 percent should have argued the point til he showed you i had to bout my injector as he reckoned the were after market and i knew the stock one's were in,where'd ya go werribee or moorabbin?

[HIZOKU]

Werribee as that was local to GF

yeah i called guy today and he said to bring it in again so Saturday it is going back in so i can be shown these so called things

it nothing new though when i had the evo 6 number plate on the side i got fined for that by police ended up removed with a nice note from Mitsubishi saying it was a stock location and a FMIC is stock on a evo

Some people are silly

[Astro Bear]

Yep, I got pulled over by the EPA three weekends ago. They got me for electronic boost controller, exhaust and pod / cooler combo. Took photos of the lot.

Got the official warning in the mail the other day, but the guy said he could have just as easily fined me.

I've learnt my lesson!