Are The Front Spotties On R33 S2 Illegal?

[AngryRB]

Hey guys

I was driving round city the other night and got pulled up over having my spotties on , i thought that was a bit odd, he told me to turn them off and that some law has been in place for the last 18months about having them on?? said i could get fined $800, or maybe i didnt hear him right...

does that sound right?? what harm does having your spotties on do? factory fitted i might add, is the police guy just a wanker or is he talking the truth???

[-Jimmy-]

Yeah just about every state has a law stating you aren't permitted to use driving/fog-lights unless in foggy/adverse conditions.

Never really understood why... probably due to the fact they might be a bit glarey. And yes they do fine you for it.

That said, look at my avatar. Those lights inside my headlights are considered my driving lights/fog lights but I seem to get away with it because cops assume they are the normal headlight (but the headlight is to the left of that).

Edited July 13, 2011 by -Jimmy-

[AngryRB]

Yeah just about every state has a law stating you aren't permitted to use driving/fog-lights unless in foggy/adverse conditions.

Never really understood why... probably due to the fact they might be a bit glarey. And yes they do fine you for it.

That said, look at my avatar. Those lights inside my headlights are considered my driving lights/fog lights but I seem to get away with it because cops assume they are the normal headlight (but the headlight is to the left of that).

hmm, dam laws!!

you'd think it would add to safety more than be a hazard, oh well

[iplen]

You can use low beam during the day, but not fog lights because there for use in the fog... Just like you can't use highbeam during the day

[Miguelone]

My foggies are about as bright as the low beam though.

[AngryRB]

but the spotties are the factory ones, there not foggies, dont appear to be that bright, look similar to the headlights..

[AngryRB]

but the spotties are the factory ones, there not foggies, dont appear to be that bright, look similar to the headlights..

was night time too, dont seem to be much different from a commodore or camry's bottem spotties..

[mad082]

firstly they are 'apotties' as spotties are activated with high beam and designed for much better visibility. what you have are fog lights. yes they are illegal, regardless of how bright they are. the ones you see on falcons, etc are also illegal as the same rules apply, so don't use the "they have them on so i should be able to as well."

the general rule is that if they have a seperate switch to turn them on then they are illegal. if they come on when you turn the lights on then they are driving lights so they are legal. this doesn't mean that you can rewire them to try and beat the rule as it is based on how they are wired from standard.

[AngryRB]

firstly they are 'apotties' as spotties are activated with high beam and designed for much better visibility. what you have are fog lights. yes they are illegal, regardless of how bright they are. the ones you see on falcons, etc are also illegal as the same rules apply, so don't use the "they have them on so i should be able to as well."

the general rule is that if they have a seperate switch to turn them on then they are illegal. if they come on when you turn the lights on then they are driving lights so they are legal. this doesn't mean that you can rewire them to try and beat the rule as it is based on how they are wired from standard.

hmm , so that means all those late model cars could get fined and told off as well, kind of doesnt make sense that manufacturers are putting "apotties" on there cars and they are illegal

maybe i should wire them up to the full beam then and use them sparingly like that ??? that would be legal then right??

[Captain Kermit]

hmm , so that means all those late model cars could get fined and told off as well, kind of doesnt make sense that manufacturers are putting "apotties" on there cars and they are illegal

maybe i should wire them up to the full beam then and use them sparingly like that ??? that would be legal then right??

They aren't illegal to use if you're using them properly. If there's fog, you can turn your foglights on. If there isn't any fog, you can't turn your foglights on. How hard is that to understand?

And yes, the tards in their VT onwards SS Commodores with the little round lights in the front bar can be pulled over and fined for it as well. My Caprice has foglights, and I've only used them once in the year that I've owned my car. Not only is it illegal to use them unless necessary, it's potentially blinding to other people on the road. You might be able to see the 3M of road in front of you much better, but they (potentially) can't see a thing except your foglights. Admittedly standard foglights are usually pretty crap, but it's still illegal.

[AngryRB]

They aren't illegal to use if you're using them properly. If there's fog, you can turn your foglights on. If there isn't any fog, you can't turn your foglights on. How hard is that to understand?

And yes, the tards in their VT onwards SS Commodores with the little round lights in the front bar can be pulled over and fined for it as well. My Caprice has foglights, and I've only used them once in the year that I've owned my car. Not only is it illegal to use them unless necessary, it's potentially blinding to other people on the road. You might be able to see the 3M of road in front of you much better, but they (potentially) can't see a thing except your foglights. Admittedly standard foglights are usually pretty crap, but it's still illegal.

I understand crystal clear now Kermit, thanks for the explanation... I didnt realize they'd be blinding anyone but i take your word for it, they dont look like there for fog, i thought fog lights were a yellow colour but fair enough

thanks for the imputs guys, has cleared this issue up for me

cheers

Mark