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I am organising a group buy for Whiteline C34 Stagea Sway Bars. We require a MINIMUM of 5 orders to go ahead.

Front AWD;

BNF27Z; 22mm ADJ AWD RRP; $265 Me; $220

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Front 2WD ONLY!

BNF24Z; 24mm ADJ 2WD; RRP; $265 Me; $220

BNF24X; 27mm Fixed 2WD; RRP; $265 Me; $220

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Rear; 2WD & AWD;

BNR11Z; 20mm ADJ; RRP;$299 Me; $240

BNR11XZ; 22mm ADJ; RRP; $299 Me; $240

BNR11XXZ; 24mm ADJ; RRP; $299 Me; $240

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Links;

KLC108; Front Heavy Duty Ball Link; RRP; $180 Me; $120

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KLC109; Rear Heavy Duty Ball Link; RRP; $180 Me; $120

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The general consensus seem to favour the 24mm rear bar due to the extra weight of the wagon high up over the rear wheels.

You can order any item individually, or all of the above to make your Stagea a corner devouring beast!

Delivery is not included in this price, and rather than quote a "one size fits all" cost, contact me with your postcode for an accurate shipping cost.

The average shipping cost over the last 3 Group Buys I've run has been around the $20 -$30 mark; (insurance is extra).

As I live in Faulconbridge (Blue Mountains), all those wishing to come to me are welcome otherwise, I am happy to travel a reasonable distance in the Sydney area to deliver at no cost!

This is a great saving over retail, and an excellent chance to get hold of fantastic quality components that will really improve the handling of your wagon!

To stop this from dragging on for ages, I will requre FULL payment by Monday 15th August 2011, and delivery is should be around 2-3 weeks later; 29th August onwards (actual delivery date may be a little earlier or a little later) depending on manufacturing lead time.

Please PM me for a shipping quote BEFORE depositing any funds.

Rest assured, I will be keeping in touch through the process, and in contact with all purchasers once they're ready!

Banking Details;

Dale Laughton

ANZ Bank

BSB; 012-836

ACC; 5333-44981

When making a payment, please use your forum user name as a reference, so I can confirm payments.

So let's get cracking!

Cheers, Dale

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Well I already got my bars a couple of years ago in SK's group buy but would definately be interested in the front sway bar links, was going to get these anyway while its off the road. PM sent.

Pm replied.:thumbsup:

The general consensus seem to favour the 24mm rear bar due to the extra weight of the wagon high up over the rear wheels.

<div><br></div><div>Hey just checking if anyone else has the 24mm on the rear.  I've already ordered a set of 22 front and rear and was advised by Fulcrum that the they had spoken to Whiteline and they said to stay away from the 24mm as it would oversteer like a pig.  Plus with the 22 you can adjust the hardness in this and it would let you get a setup that would provide the best all round cornering machine.</div>

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i run the standard front bar and the big 24mm rear bar(adjustable) which is set on full hard.

this cured my chronic understeer issue, oversteer isn't a problem, but if it was i'd rather control the rear end sliding than the front endthumbsup.gif

<div><br></div><div>Hey just checking if anyone else has the 24mm on the rear.  I've already ordered a set of 22 front and rear and was advised by Fulcrum that the they had spoken to Whiteline and they said to stay away from the 24mm as it would oversteer like a pig.  Plus with the 22 you can adjust the hardness in this and it would let you get a setup that would provide the best all round cornering machine.</div>

You are aware that Fulcrum is Whitelines direct competitor?

I'll make an enquiry to Whiteline myself and see what they recommend; but, as Kiwi RS4 said the original Sydneykid Group Buy was for a 24mm rear bar. Also uses a 24mm front bar.

Not trying to take any credit for his work; he was/is the expert with regard to his work with Stageas; so I'd definitely defer to the experience of a specialist of his calibre.

Copied & pasted from the following thread; http://www.skylinesa...hl__sk+swaybars

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Also interesting is the difference in price after 6 years; considering the increased cost of raw materials.

Hope this answers some questions; you'll have to forgive my noobness with the C34; I'm learning fast though...

Edited by Daleo

You are aware that Fulcrum is Whitelines direct competitor?

I'll make an enquiry to Whiteline myself and see what they recommend; but, as Kiwi RS4 said the original Sydneykid Group Buy was for a 24mm rear bar. Also uses a 24mm front bar.

Not trying to take any credit for his work; he was/is the expert with regard to his work with Stageas; so I'd definitely defer to the experience of a specialist of his calibre.

Copied & pasted from the following thread; http://www.skylinesa...hl__sk+swaybars

Stagea_Whiteline_Package.jpg

Also interesting is the difference in price after 6 years; considering the increased cost of raw materials.

Hope this answers some questions; you'll have to forgive my noobness with the C34; I'm learning fast though...

Yeah I remember reading that and originally asked for this but then the Whiteline rep said it would understeer (my bad before saying over) like a pig.

Hearing others have gone 24 and found it to be okay gives me a reason to think that maybe the rep was wrong. I know they are competitors but as it turned out Fulcrum where installing my Japanese supplied Tein kit and I got them to order in the other bits to have it all done at one place. As it turned out the bars didn't arrive in time and they're the only things I'm waiting to have installed. I have two 22mm front and rear ready to go but if the general consensus of 24 is the better option I might try and sell the 22 I have and get a 24 ordered in instead. I want everything to be the best it can be so if 22mm rear isn't as good then I'd definitely change it up.

Yeah I remember reading that and originally asked for this but then the Whiteline rep said it would understeer (my bad before saying over) like a pig.

Hearing others have gone 24 and found it to be okay gives me a reason to think that maybe the rep was wrong. I know they are competitors but as it turned out Fulcrum where installing my Japanese supplied Tein kit and I got them to order in the other bits to have it all done at one place. As it turned out the bars didn't arrive in time and they're the only things I'm waiting to have installed. I have two 22mm front and rear ready to go but if the general consensus of 24 is the better option I might try and sell the 22 I have and get a 24 ordered in instead. I want everything to be the best it can be so if 22mm rear isn't as good then I'd definitely change it up.

Fair enough, different people will certainly have differing opinions and preferences; whilst not being wrong. Also, if the car begins to oversteer, the ATTESSA will start transferring drive forwards; which will tend to neutralise the handling anyway. The 24mm bar could also be used on it's softest setting; adjustability has its benefits.

If you already have the 22mm bar why not fit it and then see how it performs; it might be just right for you.

For some reason I thought the GB front bar was a 22mm front and 24mm rear. I need to get under and have a look when the car gets back from the snow.

Correct; BNF27Z; 22mm ADJ AWD

Obviously a typo in his Spreadsheet. No listing for a 24mm bar at all; even for GTR.

hey mate, I NEEED front and rear sway bar links, fronts badly, they are so flogged out its a joke. count me in and PM me the details, cheers

No problems;

Links;

KLC108; Front Heavy Duty Ball Link; RRP; $180 Me; $120

KLC108.jpg

KLC109; Rear Heavy Duty Ball Link; RRP; $180 Me; $120

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These will fit in an Express Post Satchel; $15 next day delivery and tracking number.

Total; $255

My Bank Details are in the first post and also here; http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/topic/372067-c34-stagea-sway-bar-group-buy/

When you make a payment; include your address so I know where to send 'em!

Cheers, Dale

Thanks for putting this together Dale :D

Anyone who hasn't done sway bars on their car, get on this group buy! They make a brilliant difference and really reduce that barge feeling

Thanks for the kind words Duncan, makes the effort worthwhile.:thumbsup:

Going from a hollow 24mm bar to solid on the rear is an upgrade but less noticeable than the improvement on the autos.

From memory a Whiteline guy said this would be an increase in rate of about 60-70% but this is only from memory and something that should be asked again to confirm.

Going from a hollow 24mm bar to solid on the rear is an upgrade but less noticeable than the improvement on the autos.

From memory a Whiteline guy said this would be an increase in rate of about 60-70% but this is only from memory and something that should be asked again to confirm.

From Hollow to Solid in genereal term would be around what you're quoting, but it's a generalisation. Based on the wall thickness of the hollow bar in question and also the O.D. of the hollow tube, it could be greater or lesser than that.

There's a Whiteline discussion paper I'll link for you, you can see it's not a simple question to answer; http://www.whiteline.com.au/docs/bulletins/Hollow%20vs%20Solid%20Swaybar.pdf

I'll do a little digging tonight and see fi I can come up with a quantifiable number.

Cheers, Dale.

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