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R33/34 Gutless? Slow?

Trizor

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NA 33/34's are not fast at all. Don't buy one expecting that.

An NA 33/34 is probably equivalent to a VY commodore in terms of straight line speed. But one of the biggest differences between the two are the lack of torque from the Nissan 6's. There is about a 100nm difference between the 3.8 litre V6 in the Commodores and the RB25 in the NA 33/34.

Buying an NA skyline is mainly about style and handling.

kaitoukid Veteran

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haha everyone is always so harsh about the n/a's. that said, if someone asked me if my car was quick, i would say hell no :P

they're not as gutless as people may make it sound, but by no means are they speed demons or anything.

should take one out for a test drive along with a vz and see which one you prefer bro.

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one of my best mates has a vz sv6 5spd auto & even with his h3kt1k 20" chromies I only get him off the line through the first 2-3 gears but then he pulls away massively haha

only other time I've been able to get one up on him is a rolling start in 3rd, but again once his auto box starting building revs he pulled away haha

if you're looking for a quick & agile p-plate car, then you can't go past the dc2 & dc5 integra type r's - little pocket rockets !

if you're set on a skyline then don't stress on the power, it's fine for your p's & still able to have a lot of fun & it'll handle a lot better than a commo :)

my 2c

Silvia GTR Mentor

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I am to assume your on your p's?.

If so you have two options.

Buy a shitter, wait till your off you pee's then get a turbo skyline.

Buy a NA skyline, it will hold its value due to the crazy demand for NA imports atm, then buy a turbo something.

If your not good at saving money buy the NA liner, that way you can be cool and keep your money invested till your off your p's.

PM-R33 Grand Master

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they're not as gutless as people may make it sound, but by no means are they speed demons or anything.

Yes, yes they are. My mums Rav 4 Cruiser 2.4L is faster or on par with an NA R33/R34 - not even joking about that, they are. On paper and in the real world.

kaitoukid Veteran

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Yes, yes they are. My mums Rav 4 Cruiser 2.4L is faster or on par with an NA R33/R34 - not even joking about that, they are. On paper and in the real world.

LOL maybe I just live in denial, and am not willing to fully accept how it is :P Else would have to cry myself to sleep every night....

as for op; if willing to see other options for some quick n/as would be the type r's (ep3, dc2, 5 not as much in audm :P), s2k, golf r32

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Neither is a speed demon, in fact, nothing you can drive on your P's is going to be, just take both for a spin and see which you like better.

On the other hand if the 350Z or V35 Coupe wasn't on the prohibited list, I would have bought one long ago :teehee:

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Neither is a speed demon, in fact, nothing you can drive on your P's is going to be, just take both for a spin and see which you like better.

On the other hand if the 350Z or V35 Coupe wasn't on the prohibited list, I would have bought one long ago :teehee:

umm, my mates crossflow TE cortina is pretty quick...

SKITTLES Experienced

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Neither is a speed demon, in fact, nothing you can drive on your P's is going to be, just take both for a spin and see which you like better.

On the other hand if the 350Z or V35 Coupe wasn't on the prohibited list, I would have bought one long ago :teehee:

Get a new Golf TSI with an easy exemption :P

Upgrade the turbo and exhaust, keep it quiet and subtle, noone will notice ;]

As for the 350, I looked at buying one then I realized they were prohibited. majorly pissed, I was.

N/A 33s aren't fast, but they're not slow.

If you can live with the fact you're not going anywhere fast, then you'll be fine owning one. My most recent liner is the slowest I've ever bought, but I'm loving it because I'm slowly getting it running smoother and gradually fixing problems with it.

The reason I feel comfortable with a slow car is because I'm whacking an RB25DET in it after I get my full license, so in the meantime, I'm using my money to upgrade brakes, wheels, suspension, cleaning it up and putting a proper sound system in it. Once I'm done getting it to stop, handle and sound great, I'll grab a new gearbox, engine, turbo and turbo back exhaust and start tracking / modifying like crazy.

So really, this stage of my life is just the "turbo lag" :P

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iseekool Veteran

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Yes, yes they are. My mums Rav 4 Cruiser 2.4L is faster or on par with an NA R33/R34 - not even joking about that, they are. On paper and in the real world.

Mmmm - I don't think that statement is accurate. My mum also has a 2005 RAV4 Cruiser 2.4L 4 speed auto. The n/a R34 sedan is quicker in all aspects in comparison to the RAV4.

Apparently the n/a R33 (i've never driven one) are the real slugs due to not having variable valve timing and variable intake length manifolds, but I'm just going from what I've been told.

Would I say the n/a R34 is fast - No

Does it handle/brake well - Yes.

I've said this in another post, n/a R34's performance is on par with a relativly late model 4 cylinder Camry.

Any commodore from VN onwards will leave you behind from 80km/h onwards (rolling acceleration).

Anything under 80km/h the n/a R34 will do reasonably well - you just got to keep the revs up.

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