Jump to content
SAU Community

Recommended Posts

fair? after the shit Team Cheater pulled post quali on the eve of possibly the most important race return for the last 5 years?

no such thing

just because you didn't like it, doesn't make it cheating. Rules don't have a 'spirit'. They have wording. You use them to your advantage whenever you can. RBR have been pushing the boundaries of the rules in their car development all year, forcing wording changes to the rules to stop them avoiding the intention of the rules. How is what Ferrari did any different?

My point about Spa was that Grosjean took Alonso out of effectively 3rd place and gifted Vettel 6 of the 8 spots he made up from his starting position. Vettel had no speed at Spa - failed to make Q3 and his only podium in the previous 6 races came in the wet at Silverstone. He got a bagful of points and Alonso missed out on his because of that incident. If not for that, Alonso would still lead Vettel in the Championship. Grosjean is the deciding factor at the moment.

Edited by hrd-hr30
  • Replies 5.5k
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Top Posters In This Topic

Posted Images

I think Renault putting an abrupt end to Ferrari's domination had more to do with the regulation change that you had to use one set of tyres for Qualy and the race. No tyre changes/strategy.

Demonstrates how much of Ferrari's advantage was in the tires, and not in the cockpit

Not to mention the unlimited testing laps team cheater felt they needed to have to stay on par with the competition

These testing rules have really leveled out the field, and i for one, am pretty happy with the racing ever since

Demonstrates how much of Ferrari's advantage was in the tires, and not in the cockpit

Not to mention the unlimited testing laps team cheater felt they needed to have to stay on par with the competition

These testing rules have really leveled out the field, and i for one, am pretty happy with the racing ever since

They have done nothing of the sort.

Demonstrates how much of Ferrari's advantage was in the tires, and not in the cockpit

that same logic applied to Renault would say most of their advantage was in the Michelins...

besides, the argument that Bridgestone designed their tyres for Ferrari is a bit silly. The other options were to design them for Minardi or Jordan - they're not going to get you wins or a championship.

and wasn't it Michelin that got busted cheating with wider front tyres?

Edited by hrd-hr30

just because you didn't like it, doesn't make it cheating. Rules don't have a 'spirit'. They have wording. You use them to your advantage whenever you can. RBR have been pushing the boundaries of the rules in their car development all year, forcing wording changes to the rules to stop them avoiding the intention of the rules. How is what Ferrari did any different?

My point about Spa was that Grosjean took Alonso out of effectively 3rd place and gifted Vettel 6 of the 8 spots he made up from his starting position. Vettel had no speed at Spa - failed to make Q3 and his only podium in the previous 6 races came in the wet at Silverstone. He got a bagful of points and Alonso missed out on his because of that incident. If not for that, Alonso would still lead Vettel in the Championship. Grosjean is the deciding factor at the moment.

Thats racing.

Could have easily been the other way round, Alonso wins at Spa and is in the box seat if not already World champion this weekend and Vettel is doing the chasing cause someone took him out at a previous race.

You cant just say its Grosjeans fault that Vettel looks to be winning the WDC. Wrong place wrong time is just something that happens. Grosjean shouldnt have run everyone off the road, but it happened, and it was unlucky for Alonso

Thats racing.

Could have easily been the other way round, Alonso wins at Spa and is in the box seat if not already World champion this weekend and Vettel is doing the chasing cause someone took him out at a previous race.

You cant just say its Grosjeans fault that Vettel looks to be winning the WDC. Wrong place wrong time is just something that happens. Grosjean shouldnt have run everyone off the road, but it happened, and it was unlucky for Alonso

I can say it, and I am saying it. Its undeniable that Grosjean at Spa changed the course of the championship. Vettel who couldn't even make Q3 ends up finishing 2nd because 6 of the top 10 in front of him were effectively removed from the race in the first corner, including Alonso. Alonso scores 0 because of Grosjean and Vettel gets gifted 6 spots. That is what happened.

Saying it doesn't count because something entirely different could have happened is insane.

The way it stands, its the deciding factor of the championship.

Edited by hrd-hr30

just because you didn't like it, doesn't make it cheating. Rules don't have a 'spirit'. They have wording. You use them to your advantage whenever you can. RBR have been pushing the boundaries of the rules in their car development all year, forcing wording changes to the rules to stop them avoiding the intention of the rules. How is what Ferrari did any different?

My point about Spa was that Grosjean took Alonso out of effectively 3rd place and gifted Vettel 6 of the 8 spots he made up from his starting position. Vettel had no speed at Spa - failed to make Q3 and his only podium in the previous 6 races came in the wet at Silverstone. He got a bagful of points and Alonso missed out on his because of that incident. If not for that, Alonso would still lead Vettel in the Championship. Grosjean is the deciding factor at the moment.

Bout time someone said it. Spot on.

These testing rules have really leveled out the field, and i for one, am pretty happy with the racing ever since

Yet every second post of yours in here seems to be about how bored you are watching the races...

I can say it, and I am saying it. Its undeniable that Grosjean at Spa changed the course of the championship. Vettel who couldn't even make Q3 ends up finishing 2nd because 6 of the top 10 in front of him were effectively removed from the race in the first corner, including Alonso. Alonso scores 0 because of Grosjean and Vettel gets gifted 6 spots. That is what happened.

Saying it doesn't count because something entirely different could have happened is insane.

The way it stands, its the deciding factor of the championship.

Spot on. Again.

I can say it, and I am saying it. Its undeniable that Grosjean at Spa changed the course of the championship. Vettel who couldn't even make Q3 ends up finishing 2nd because 6 of the top 10 in front of him were effectively removed from the race in the first corner, including Alonso. Alonso scores 0 because of Grosjean and Vettel gets gifted 6 spots. That is what happened.

Saying it doesn't count because something entirely different could have happened is insane.

The way it stands, its the deciding factor of the championship.

Ahh I'm not gonna argue lol. I know what it's like when it seems like your driver has been robbed of the championship so I see where your coming from. I was just trying to be a 'Neutral' voice on the matter.

Spa was the opposite of Valencia. Vettel out from no fault of his own, Alonso wins.

Thats why I said thats just racing.

I think either driver is worthy of it this year, The worst fact from the USA GP was 'Kimi is the only driver to have raced every lap of a race this year'

I hope the next Lotus Is a good one :)

Sauber will announce during the course of this weekend's Brazilian GP who will partner Nico Hulkenberg next season.

http://www.planetf1.com/driver/18227/8270583/Sauber-driver-announcement-in-Brazil

Force India boss Vijay Mallya has revealed that his team will receive a significant financial boost ahead of the new season as they look to move up the grid

"We had a board meeting in India after the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix and the board has approved a £50 million capital investment programme for the team," he explained.

http://www.planetf1.com/driver/18227/8265751/Force-India-set-for-50m-investment

The way it stands, its the deciding factor of the championship.

i was actually thinking about that and have to the conclusion that that is ridiculous. To pick out one incident in isolation as the deciding factor is nonsense

Renault has shafted vettel with two alternator failures. Robbing him of almost 50 points. And looks likely do it again in the title deciding round also

So now i declare that Renault has been the deciding factor in the championship

That's entirely different as well. If your car is unreliable, that's points you deserve to loose IMO. Sure, its outside of the driver's control, but its a characteristic of the car he's in, just like its awesome downforce, or any other characteristic of the car the driver has no control over.

But I have no problem with Renault being the deciding factor in the championship. If their shit is too unreliable to win races, that's a fair deciding factor!

And loosing an alternator and retiring doesn't gift your rival another 6 places, and the bagfull of points that goes along with it. Those points Vettel was gifted and Alonso lost by being skittled are the reason Vettel leads Alonso in the Championship. That's why its the deciding factor at the moment.

Edited by hrd-hr30

that's entirely different as well. If your car is unreliable, that's points you deserve to loose IMO.

what!?

The same reasoning goes for, if your cant qualify you car for shit and get stuck in the mid pack, you deserve the wrath of the newfags

Sure, its outside of the driver's control, but its a characteristic of the car he's in, just like its awesome downforce, or any other characteristic of the car the driver has no control over.

and loosing an alternator and retiring doesn't gift your rival another 6 places, and the bagfull of points that goes along with it!

You reasoning is specious, to say the least

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now



  • Similar Content

  • Latest Posts

    • Seat of the pants assessment of the new intake: The car is way less "doughy" when hitting the loud pedal, especially off idle when stopped or in traffic, I did use a cheapo lazer thermal thingo to measure the temp around where the pod filter got its air, it was between 55 - 60°C, in saying this the car was shut off and not moving, so the OEM intake pipe was not supplying any fresh air to where the pod was when the car was at least moving A weird bonus was induction noise on the throttle in the cabin increased a bit,  I was worried that I was actually going to lose some of that induction noise I love so much, outside though, when I got the daughter to do a WOT drive by pass for me, the induction noise has increased alot when on the throttle, not quite ITB doort, but well up there I'm extremely happy with the results and have been exploring the country roads in the region  As for house mods: 1.New front fence is up and is awesome, it really upgraded how the joint looks from the street, and the added security is nice 2. Electricians have replace some interior lights, and with more lighting in the garage, a few new motion detecting lights out the front above the garage, front room, and at the front door, which I have already found heaps helpful coming and going, also now has fancy pants CCTV all round the house The only hold point for power though is the solar and batteries due to supply issues, although this will happen over the next few weeks 3. I have done a heap of landscaping out the front and I'm almost ready to do a new small retaining wall with some nice blocks to replace the brick and cemented in rocks around the raised garden beds cemented in river stone "was the fashion at the time" the house was built. I currently have a pallet of retaining wall blocks and 2 bulka bags of 20mm blue metal to replace the wood chip that is in the raised garden beds around the house 4. I now have 3 big raised garden beds for out the back to grow some vegetables, about 70cm high, 200cm long and 100cm wide 5. My 2 compost bins are already pretty full with brown, green and kitchen waste from the landscaping I'vedone so far, but they will probably take a few months to break down, so anything else that gets chopped, trimmed, and kitchen waste will just start filling the base of the raised garden beds to about 30cm before I start throwing 40cm of good compost, and stuff, for the vegetables to grow in, I'll need a few ton of compost and soil, but the local supplier can sent me bulka bags of the stuff Basically the logs, wood chips and a few strategically placed rocks for drainage, will give the beds some good organic materials down low to break down over time, and they will hold moisture during the warmer months to save the water in my big arse water tank if we don't get alot of rain So, all in all, the car and house mods are going well, and I'm really enjoying being retired, I sleep in too 0700 and slowly plod around inside until I feel like actually doing anything, and only work in the yard for as long as want, which has actually been alot over the last few weeks,  although when you look at it, it seems that not a huge amount of work has been done,  until I look at the before I started the work pics Happy days and good times indeed 
    • hahaha yeah. Plan is to get side skirts and probably just rear pods. But going to do them one-by-one. I've got a set that I really like from RHDJapen, but that one isn't shipped to AU. So need to find someone who can get it for me
    • Here's an idea, answer the questions I asked you as they are trying to work out WHY the LSD will be binding up in a straight line.
    • You haven't driven many modern cars then have you? Most of them have sfa steering feel with their stupid electric bullshit steering systems.
×
×
  • Create New...