Wakefield 300

[Risking]

The 300 is to be run again today.

There is a skyline team entered in Craig and son Adam burgess.

Craig took a race win in the super TT category earlier today.

Their car has undertaken some serious enduro additions recently in preparation for this years enduro events.

Best of luck to the guys today in the 300.

[evil_weevil]

Jake Shelly won it in his new Evo. usually races an MX5. congrats to them!

the weather sounded pretty bad there today.

[tk80]

curious to know how burgess went...any details?

edit...just checked out natsoft

http://www.natsoft.com.au/cgi-bin/results.cgi?04/03/2012.WAKE.R24

Edited March 6, 2012 by tk80

[Roy]

I hope nothing expensive happened on Lap 22

[Risking]

The guys were leading up till that lap.

It actually snapped the lower control arm mounts off the factory rear subframe, race ended.

We are now doing a revised rear subframe for the car with strengthened mounts.

The guys were really happy and comfortable in the car untill the arse end fell out.......

[Duncan]

lol that would have been fun. did you ask them to stay off the curbs next time?

[gtstcruiser67]

Very dissapointing to see the GTR drop out. He was very quick and could have won if not for yet another gremlin stopping his charge.

Hopefully next year he will finish the race. If so he will be a top three finish.

I bought a drive with Tampered Motorsport. They offer arrive and drive packages for the various AASA races. They do have a tuned GTST available for people interested in getting out there. Its a mid field car so you will be very busy.

Here are a few words from my seat in the Wakefield 300: The 300 was a very wet race with some very quick cars and little visibility. The car I ran (MX5) was set up for dry weather with dry weather semi's so with extreme flooding only a few km from the race it was a very difficult car to drive. It was the best fun I have ever had driving. Aquaplaning through the kink until the road finds the tyres then powersliding through turn one 67 times in a row was a blast. Highly recommend it to people who want to get out there and race for a small investment. The car was mid field so there was plenty of passing, door to door racing, super quick cars appearing from nowhere in the rain mist, covered in mud from excusions in to the mud and gravel traps.I managed 4 separate 360's where I didnt stop but managed to keep the car in going in the right direction and three trips into the gravel trap without getting trapped in the gravel trap. It's never great to come off the track, but with half the field doing the same it wasnt that big of a deal. Best thing was no major accidents for anyone in the race.

Race is televised on MAy 20 on Speedweek

Here are some pics:

http://www.facebook....3&type=1&ref=nf

http://www.facebook....3&type=1&ref=nf

Cheers

[zebra]

What is the cost of renting the car for the weekend?

and is it "if you bend it you buy it?"

Oh and your facespace links aren't working

[evil_weevil]

I saw on FB was 1000 for a daewoo which includes everything.

I got offered a co drive in a Pug (for less) although didnt make it cause it was my 30th and got totally shitfaced.

considering doing it next year and either getting a co drive or doing the daewoos

[zebra]

Cheers Chubbeh

Anyone know the format for refueling etc

I would love to do this one day and the EC 6 hour

I have heard that you need to stop for 5 mins minimum to refuel and/or driver change etc

Cheers

[gtstcruiser67]

What is the cost of renting the car for the weekend?

and is it "if you bend it you buy it?"

Oh and your facespace links aren't working

Cost was $1500 all inclusive for the weekend. Car,fuel,new tyres, use of Wakefield workshop, entry and crew on hand when required. As for damage, we didnt get that far but Im sure we would have worked out a solution if there was an accident . Its a great way to test the waters if thats your gig.

Refuel is 5 min minimum but that pit stop is the quickest 5 minutes of your life. Some are ready and waiting for the time to pass but Im sure they spend a lot of time in prep for this plus they are waiting for no more than one minute.

You wouldnt be too effected buy a two stop in a wet race as plenty come off the track and require a tow, cars expire so you pit on the safety car and still in with a shot. There are no restrictions on fuel tank sizes so you can add a tank to make it a one stop and add some flexibility into the strategy of your race.

Refuelling systems are available on the Wakefield website. Im building a system in the near future to move away from the pump system. Will display when completed.

Will sort out the pic's of race soon.

[zebra]

Awesome info

Thanks for that

Hopefully be there within the next couple of years

[zebra]

Soooo...

Hypothetically, what prep would you guys do different for this event (and other enduros) over a regular Super TT/MRA etc sprint round?

Never really thought about it before, but I would be thinking a drink bottle mount/system

Suspension setup to look after the tyres rather than outright speed etc

They are the obvious one, but what are the little but important things a car/driver should have?

[gtstcruiser67]

Good question,

The biggest issue with the enduro is the logistics of the race. With a sprint round you can show up with yourself and one other and go racing(to a degree). With the enduro there is a lot more momentum required to do the event. The race does not start that weekend but weeks or months in advance in some cases. A friend of mine runs the RX7 S6 V8 who spends a vast amount of time with prep of the team before the event. He also has a 4 crew members and co-driver. There is a lot involved in making the weekende run smoothly but this takes plenty of prep.

With the GTR which competes in the race, they would spend 300+hrs( a guess) in prep as they are a high end outfit in club racing. By the way,they have an excellent prepeared car with solid performance but have been tested with all the expected tests of a w300 race winning car. Their day is just around the corner make no doubt about it. One thing they do need is the support of all Skyline owners at the race, so please make the effort to support one of the best R32's in NSW battle it out to win the best enduro for club racing on the East coast.

With a lower class car there is less work required as its a lower spec power/performance ratio but with the division1/2 cars, a lot more prep is involved as your aiming at a top 5 finish which is now, quite a challenge. The reason the division 3/4/5 require less prep is they are closer to showroom cars or are infact showroom cars with minor mods. This allows more time for co-ordinating a team to support the said car for the weekend.

You will need a team manager. No driver can be a team manager as it does not work. So you need to dedicate this to a member who fits the bill.

On race week the drivers need to work on car set up not running the team, strategies, fuel, food etc. They need to focus on PR,car setup, motivating the team.

As for the team, they need to bring something to the plate to help with their motivation. I have done this myself and it does work. This is normally time dedicated to car prep in one way or another but IT prep is also another point. If you run a data logger you will find a IT person who will make sense of the info. This also motivates the drivers,team manager and crew to a common goal hence the term " momentum". The RX7 owner has used this to good effect with a win in 2011 and 4th in 2012.

To answer your questions on suspension setup, it could cost as much as the race itself in prepping the car to suit. Best thing to do would be to contact a few of the existing owners of skylines for feedback on how to set up the car. Chances are, they may come along to help out with your campain. Two sets of tyres, one for practice and qually and one for the race will be enough. See Greg Nolan to heat treat the tyre right which will see you though. Run Mich 18/290/68they are affordable, durable and quick.

If its a hot race you will need water, if its a wet race you will not.

A radio is a big help. Highly recommended .

Sort accomodation well in advance as its a busy weekend for the 300.

The more prep on the car before the race weekend will reduce time wasted on race weekend.

Cooling and managing heat sink is critical. Brakes, gearbox,engine, gearbox. This can be driving to suit what you have to work with to adding parts to increase your threshhold of heat sink.

Dont use rose joints. If you do, improve support around the critical points or it may break.

Driver: improve cooling for the driver, naca ducts, heat shrouds, correct diet leading to the weekend, hydrated team befor eth event.

A TV helps with pit stops so you lose the minimum amount of time.

Hope that helps!

[zebra]

Certainly helpful, thanks for taking the time to reply

If I do do it, it will be with the shitbox (ala Supra) and there isnt much info out there for getting them circuit ready in regards to suspension

Thanks again for giving me something to chew on

[gtstcruiser67]

No worries mate,

Funny enough, I dont run a Skyline nowdays but a SW20 competed at WTAC 2010. It now has a new engine and gearbox,suspension,data logger and a whole heap of other bits. Im planning on running in the Winton 300 with the MR2 so as for a Supra, we are in the same garage so to speak.

There are a few guy's running the Supra who should be easy enough to contact to provide a guide line for set up. Which one is it? Do you have a build thread on it? Best to sort out bigger fuel capacity and solid brake setup first.

Here a some pic's from the 300

[zebra]

Hah I remember your MR2 from SL, I was in the starters box waving flags and shit lol

Ye Big brakes are one of the first things I'll do, 70L fuel tank should be enough to do 1 stop I think, but we'll worry about that when the time comes

No build thread as nothing has been done to it, funnily enough I mention motorsport and the motor dies

Its a JZA70R so I'm under no illusions of even making the top 20 without serious $$$ spent

[evil_weevil]

this thread makes me want to race now.

gtstcruiser - you going to do any MRA this year? round 2 is 6th may, unfort I wont be there, first one ive missed for ages

[gtstcruiser67]

Im plan on making at least one round but still have a few things to sort out before I race. I ran at the SuperTruck round at Winton last year, managing 2nd for the weekend. All good but broke the engine so its been back in rebuild mode since..

There were two at SL. This is mine

Edited April 15, 2012 by gtstcruiser67