Suspension Of License, Help!

[Aussie_Delivered_R32_GTR]

Got done for 2 points and like $200 for not wearing my green p-plates. washed them one night

so i took them off and didn't put them back on, drove literally 5 minutes and got pulled over !

, kind of shit house considering a full fledged burnout is like 3 points, i hate it when they try make

you feel guilty over something like not wearing your p-plates, like im driving around naked in

my car or something !

How many were not displayed? I've heard it's 2 points per P plate not displayed.........

[cherring]

Got done for 2 points and like $200 for not wearing my green p-plates. washed them one night

so i took them off and didn't put them back on, drove literally 5 minutes and got pulled over !

, kind of shit house considering a full fledged burnout is like 3 points, i hate it when they try make

you feel guilty over something like not wearing your p-plates, like im driving around naked in

my car or something !

But you did take them off and not put them back on ....

[Gerg_R31]

I will be representing myself on the day, I've familiarised myself with how the courts work and such, I believe I have a solid chance of getting my license back with the given grounds I've got.

"it's not what you know it's what you can prove in court" - Law Abiding Citizen

A bit of advice, I assume your young, so the prosecutors will take advantage of this

American court based tv shows is largely different to how local courts are run in Australia

i would more focus on fighting to have the negligent driving charge dropped, not focus on the licensing part, you get this over turned, then your points should be returned

but i STRONGLY suggest to seek professional legal person/s who are EXPERIENCED

but remember if it cannot be afforded then seek legal aid

Best of luck

[ianjb]

what prosecutors ?

[Gerg_R31]

Sorry ill re word that as "the side that will be saying he did those things he is contesting" as there is always 2 sides

[MBS206]

what prosecutors ?

You'll normally have state prosecutors supporting the case from the police/state side.

This is what I understand happens. Never been myself, never had to.

[Gerg_R31]

Character references will help (that describe the defendant and not the case as these will have it excluded) but there is still the nurse who her job is a hard character reference to top in the eyes of the court, done free charity work?

[4teecal]

How many were not displayed? I've heard it's 2 points per P plate not displayed.........

what prosecutors ?

P plates carries 2 points, whether you have none, 1, or 2 partially displayed.

The RMS will have their own solicitor there in relation to the appeal of the suspension or they will get a police prosecutor to loo after it.

Provisional drivers are in a unique position where they are the only drivers with the ability to appeal a demerit point suspension. You can appeal on hardship or all grounds. In your case you would be appealing on hardship. You could appeal all grounds if one or both of the previous matters were dismissed.

Lodging the appeal late may be your downfall as it may not even get off the ground at the hearing date.

Edited August 31, 2012 by 4teecal

[m.j.h]

Be polite and well-spoken - this is probably the best advice I can give you now. I mean I don't know you in person, so I can't really say if that's how you are or not, but it's something I'd go with.

If you need to state your case, do so calmly and as concisely as you can.

I believe I am, thanks

And wear a suit and tie

If you don't have one borrow one that fits well

[S3RK]

Character references will help (that describe the defendant and not the case as these will have it excluded) but there is still the nurse who her job is a hard character reference to top in the eyes of the court, done free charity work?

No free charity work I did clean up my school garden though last year if that helps? Haha

P plates carries 2 points, whether you have none, 1, or 2 partially displayed.

The RMS will have their own solicitor there in relation to the appeal of the suspension or they will get a police prosecutor to loo after it.

Provisional drivers are in a unique position where they are the only drivers with the ability to appeal a demerit point suspension. You can appeal on hardship or all grounds. In your case you would be appealing on hardship. You could appeal all grounds if one or both of the previous matters were dismissed.

Lodging the appeal late may be your downfall as it may not even get off the ground at the hearing date.

Thanks for the information!

And wear a suit and tie

If you don't have one borrow one that fits well

I came on to ask if I should, seen your response . I do have both suit and tie, and I will be wearing them. I thought, well it is a formal place so I should dress formally...

[oweban]

Yep, definitely agree with suit - make sure it's a sedate one though, don't want it too flamboyant. The whole idea is to show respect for the court, not to try and get off of things, but because showing respect in court is always good anyway, even if you're just there to watch events for a third party. Have a shave and tame your hair, you wild thing you

[asps91]

And display a look of remorse, judges hate smiles

[S3RK]

Yep, definitely agree with suit - make sure it's a sedate one though, don't want it too flamboyant. The whole idea is to show respect for the court, not to try and get off of things, but because showing respect in court is always good anyway, even if you're just there to watch events for a third party. Have a shave and tame your hair, you wild thing you

Ohh don't you worry I've got the PERFECT one lined up

And display a look of remorse, judges hate smiles

Got it. No smiling. :D :D :D

[Seano350GT]

This was a good read, i look forward to seeing how this pans out. I strongly agree with most of the comments regarding dressing well in a suit, black, and a tie. Definitely be punctual and well mannered, judging by your comments in this thread you seem like an educated bloke so go in there and f*ck shit up.

Goodluck!

[S3RK]

Due to my appeal being lodged 2 days late, the magistrate could not hear my appeal.

What a waste of f**king time. Mind you, this kid that looked about 15 was discussing with the RMS lawyer him being suspended for 6 months due to going 45k's over the limit and street racing...

Unsuspension date: 14th of November

[Seano350GT]

Bad luck man at least you gave it a shot!

[m.j.h]

Bad luck man at least you gave it a shot!

+1

[ras1983]

Well, you've learned for next time: get a lawyer when going to court. They would have told you when the appeal deadline was, what your chances of winning were, and whether you should bother. Still, you gave it your best shot.