Formula 1 2013

[wolverine]

27k?

keep fcuking dreaming

maybe if you reversed the numbers

Just the small inserts, not the full dash.

[billywhiz]

Don't you love the rawness of early in car footage. Modern sophistication, go pro et al sanitises the experience.

[tweety bird]

2014 F1 calendar:

16 March Grand Prix of Australia
30 March Grand Prix of Malaysia
06 April Grand Prix of Bahrain
20 April Grand Prix of China
27 April Grand Prix of Korea (provisional)
11 May Grand Prix of Spain
25 May Grand Prix of Monaco
01 June Grand Prix of America, New Jersey (provisional*)
08 June Grand Prix of Canada
22 June Grand Prix of Austria
06 July Grand Prix of Great Britain
20 July Grand Prix of Germany (Hockenheim)
27 July Grand Prix of Hungary
24 August Grand Prix of Belgium
07 September Grand Prix of Italy
21 September Grand Prix of Singapore
05 October Grand Prix of Russia (Sochi)
12 October Grand Prix of Japan
26 October Grand Prix of Abu Dhabi
09 November Grand Prix of USA (Austin)
16 November Grand Prix of Mexico (provisional*)
30 November Grand Prix of Brazil

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/110175

[ctjet]

how is that russian track going??

having heard boo about it

[Angus Smart]

Flooded along with the rest of the olympic shit yeah?

[ctjet]

https://www.google.com.au/search?gs_rn=27&gs_ri=psy-ab&pq=sochi&cp=8&gs_id=b&xhr=t&q=sochi+f1&es_sm=122&bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&bvm=bv.53217764,d.aGc&biw=1088&bih=551&dpr=1&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=kvtIUpq-M4iMiQeXz4G4Dw

Shit, that even the first time i've seen the track map!

Looks.. OK

A lot like Korea

[Roy]

So interesting discussion about Vettel and his performance at Singapore. Minardi has commented that theere was something audibly different in Vettels exhaust notes and some backroom discussions that the noise was only able to be heard when he had the hammer down building a gap.

From there his amazing traction out of a certain part of the track suggests he was using traction control. Now with the McLaren control ECU that is 99.999% impossible , but gives rise to how a team runs its KERS system and how it is perhaps able to drive the KERS motor off the gearbox to tone down the torque on slow corner exits or driving it relative to road speed.

[hrd-hr30]

"Furthermore, that sound was only heard when Vettel chalked up his excellent performances," added Minardi. "For example, after the safety car went in. In those moments it was more powerful (sounding) than any other engines -- Renault and the other brands."

ah, it was the kind of traction control that gives your engine more power!

Minardi having a seniors moment I reckon.

[89CAL]

Couldnt it have just been Vettel turning the engine up, a bit like they all do at times? I imagine that it sounds different when the engine map goes to maximum performance

[Roy]

If you read the other parts of the article he was talkign that the noise was like the blown diffuser sounding...and some of the chat isnt about RBR cheating but having found a way to get the car to hook up out of the 130km/h and under corners. The fact that Webber was nowhere suggests he didnt have it....or was not able to exploit it.

More than assuming they are cheating it will be interesting in the next few races to see if they have found another innovation to account for their crazy speed which if KERS related is only going to help them next year when it is even more powerful.

I read the FIA regs the other night and they are pretty open about how you use KERS and its control system. Need to use control instruments for monitoring but not how they operate

[89CAL]

Yeah who knows when you have someone as brillian as Newey designing things for your cars. Formula 1 is all about bending or finding loopholes in the rules. Thats what makes a successful team

Bit annoyed that Korea and Singapore GP's have both fallen on weekends when I'm out at work and cant watch. Have to ban myself from facebook etc till Wednesday when I get home

[Roy]

Webz abd Romain are paying $6.50 for a place this weekend. Webz at $34 and Romain $41 a win, Think i might have a flutter this weekend

[Gts-t]

Save your money man, save your money

I want to buy a merc team shirt but the f1 store has sfa!

[ctjet]

stolen from another forum

thought about redbulls supposed TC system

Instead of modulating engine output as a form of traction control (which is illegal, or everyone would be doing it), Racecar Engineering suggests that Red Bull might be using KERS output as a way of controlling traction. Or atleast that's how I'm reading it.

With this technique, the driver would push the throttle pedal enough to generate forward motion, but nowhere near enough to break traction, and the rest of the power would be provided by KERS which, I assume, isn't as heavily regulated as engine output since most teams use different KERS packages from different manufacturers. Controlling the torque output of an electric motor is much much easier compared to controlling torque output of an internal combustion engine, and a lot less obvious.

The strange sound heard from Vettel's car could've been the engine slightly bogging down (due to bumps on the track), but there would be no loss of traction as the supplementary power provided by the KERS motor would still be available and generating forward motion.

[tweety bird]

interesting.

[hrd-hr30]

stolen from another forum

thought about redbulls supposed TC system

Instead of modulating engine output as a form of traction control (which is illegal, or everyone would be doing it), Racecar Engineering suggests that Red Bull might be using KERS output as a way of controlling traction. Or atleast that's how I'm reading it.

With this technique, the driver would push the throttle pedal enough to generate forward motion, but nowhere near enough to break traction, and the rest of the power would be provided by KERS which, I assume, isn't as heavily regulated as engine output since most teams use different KERS packages from different manufacturers

KERS is heavily controlled. Limited to a maximum of 80bhp (in or out) and is monitored in every car.

The smart money says there is no more to these rumours than there was to the last RBR traction control rumours about Webber's car at Canada.

[Roy]

Yeh, i think IF they are doing it then it will be in the way that they are harvesting or how the KERS motor may be being used to dull the torque and work as a damper. I suppose they could turn the mapping down a load and use a soft torque setting ont eh KERS to pump out 80hp....but think its more to do with the harvesting as you woudl be needing to chase a HUGE amoutn of traction advantage to give away the 780hp burst for 6 seconds.

[tweety bird]

[tweety bird]

[dezz]

I don't see why RBR would even bother cheating, they won the last race by 30+ seconds