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congratulations for being around at a time when they hand points out like lollies.

now now, guys in the 70's and 80's were saying the same thing about the guys from the 90's

twice as many races with all their points results counting? talk about unfair advantage

this is just an extension of that

Im sure in 10 years time when 100 points are given for a race win, we'll be looking back and all this will be just a sweet memory

Edited by ctjet

So, what's some donuts worth these days?

€25,000 apparently.

That's going to buy someone and their family a lifetime of curries, with samosas.

They fined Williams $60k because a cross threaded wheel nut fell off the car. They are out of their minds.

Maybe the FIA need to spend more time coming up with a formula that works instead of the crap they endlessly serve up.

the possibility of a loose wheelnut bouncing along a live racetrack is dangerous - think Massa and the spring...

then there's the wheel which could have come off - there's been an example of a loose wheel hitting someone earlier this year...

Edited by hrd-hr30

the possibility of a loose wheelnut bouncing along a live racetrack is dangerous - think Massa and the spring...

then there's the wheel which could have come off - there's been an example of a loose wheel hitting someone earlier this year...

The possibilities are endless. The reality was absolutely banal and benign. The nut just fell off and went nowhere. The wheel stayed on. The car was going very slowly at the time. Anyone who thinks that is worth $60k is out of their tiny mind.

the possibility of a loose wheelnut bouncing along a live racetrack is dangerous - think Massa and the spring...

then there's the wheel which could have come off - there's been an example of a loose wheel hitting someone earlier this year...

Its BS...on both counts. The race was over..last Indian GP...newly crowned World Champion...he did it after pit entry. A slap on the wrist and suspended sentence shoudl have been handed to RBR-Vettel.

Then you have Williams...they sure as hell dont design it to fail...didnt want it to fail...yet it happened. It snot like fining them is going to make them work any harder to fix the issue. Its BS. Yes it had the possibility of being dangerous. But look at the STR a few years back whose front suspension just collapsed under brakes. Look at Rubens and Brawn & Massa incident...did he het fined? Its BS!

The possibilities are endless. The reality was absolutely banal and benign. The nut just fell off and went nowhere. The wheel stayed on. The car was going very slowly at the time. Anyone who thinks that is worth $60k is out of their tiny mind.

So only penalise teams for safety breaches if someone get's hurt?

now now, guys in the 70's and 80's were saying the same thing about the guys from the 90's

twice as many races with all their points results counting? talk about unfair advantage

this is just an extension of that

Im sure in 10 years time when 100 points are given for a race win, we'll be looking back and all this will be just a sweet memory

that's kinda my point. An F1 driver knows all this, but he goes and gets a special helmet and makes a big deal out of getting more points than everyone before him. Imagine the furore if Vettel did something like that!

So only penalise teams for safety breaches if someone get's hurt?

No dont penalise them at all. Clearly something went wrong. They know something went wrong. They will be looking into it and, presumably, fixing it. They dont need the FIA to tell them to fix it. They dont need a fine to tell them they fkd up. They lost a tyre set I would assume and busted some componentry plus they lost track time.

So what difference is a fk off big fine from the FIA going to make? None. So why do it? There is hardly an outbreak of cross threaded wheel nuts in the offing.

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