chilzzi Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 Hi all, i have this kit ready to install but i havent found hardly any reviews for performance or reliability. Anyone have any evidence if these kits are way to go with your power FC ecu? Just want to make sure it's the right move before going into the trouble. If not whats the most compatible for your PFC? Cheers Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/424657-power-fc-boost-controller-kit-reviews/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
jiffo Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 The good thing is they're very simple to install and all info is shown on the hand commander. Bad things, they're a very ordinary boost controller, electronics are dated by today's offerings. They will struggle to maintain steady boost once you get over about 1.2 bar, you need to work on the actuator preload as well to get the best results. And for my money they're overpriced. I have one for the 32. (in the shed) Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/424657-power-fc-boost-controller-kit-reviews/#findComment-6838856 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piggaz Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 As above. I had one and pulled it out. Buy something fuel solenoid like a Blitz ID 3. Much better control and features. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/424657-power-fc-boost-controller-kit-reviews/#findComment-6838869 Share on other sites More sharing options...
89CAL Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 They aren't that bad. Mine holds boost alright. Running 18psi It just takes a bit to setup and then learns for a few runs. Might not be the best but its good if you already have one and don't want any more controllers in the car Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/424657-power-fc-boost-controller-kit-reviews/#findComment-6838891 Share on other sites More sharing options...
trick Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 I have one running 1.3 to 1.5 bar and i havnt had a problem with it not holding boost. Took a bit to set up but I recommend them. Especially that you already have it. It's good to just use your hand controller to monitor boost too. Very accurate information I think Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/424657-power-fc-boost-controller-kit-reviews/#findComment-6838919 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chilzzi Posted May 5, 2013 Author Share Posted May 5, 2013 Can you increase or decrease the boost via the hand controller? Planning on getting the pfc and boost controller installed and tuned at the same time when I do all the other turbo and injector mods..so I figured once its done I won't have to do anything to it except drive and enjoy Keep your reviews coming through, interesting reading....my tuner was the one who got me worried about the pfc controller kit, he doesn't recommended them but that's just one opinion I say.... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/424657-power-fc-boost-controller-kit-reviews/#findComment-6838937 Share on other sites More sharing options...
trick Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 Sure can. Has 4 different points you can set a max boost setting. Can scroll over to any one of the 4 to reach that boost setting. Also can tweak the settings by increasing or decreasing the solenoid pulse time to fine tune it all at your hand Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/424657-power-fc-boost-controller-kit-reviews/#findComment-6838956 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustinP Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 I used one on my old setup, worked perfectly and it was great as it was one less thing inside the car with everything controlled through the hand controller. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/424657-power-fc-boost-controller-kit-reviews/#findComment-6838966 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shombre Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 (edited) Chiizzi, I run the boost kit with my PowerFC controlling an extensively modified twin turbo setup. I've used it since 2005, so I think I can speak with some authority about long term reliability. It has never had a problem controlling boost to 29psi on the dyno, and I daily drive at 24psi without issue. It has excellent overboost protection and it learns the boost curve if you follow the learning procedure (from memory, 4th or higher gear runs from 1500rpm to 4000rpm - probably best done on the dyno depending on your power level). It also avoids the need for yet another box. Yes, you can adjust the boost level on the fly with the hand controller. However, I'm not running internal wastegates. I'm also surprised you, as a native user of this forum since 2007, didn't find this thread in your search - http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/topic/229928-dyno-graphs-comparing-pfc-boost-controll-vs-blitz-idiii/ I have to agree with other posters that there are "better" boost controllers out there, for the *sole* reason that the PFC doesn't apply adjustable closed loop control ("gain") to promote earlier spool. However, this is really just a function of wastegate spring preload, or, in the case of external gates, running appropriate spring pressures. I chose to do the latter (1.2Bar springs) and have had no issues. This fact is also referenced in the linked thread. Your tuner's opinion is important but he might be the same sort of person telling me that I'd have crap driveability and a dodgy power tune on my setup with a PowerFC, and that I should switch for a (insert ECU du jour here). I'd counter with 530+rwkW for multiple runs, 470rwkW daily driven, pump fuel and WMI, perfect cold and hot starts and excellent driveability out of this "dinosaur" ECU If you want something reliable, easy to set up and neat - I'd say go for it. Edited May 5, 2013 by shombre Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/424657-power-fc-boost-controller-kit-reviews/#findComment-6839211 Share on other sites More sharing options...
75coupe Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 Im using the pfc boost controller, running 21psi on an internally gated hks2835pros with no problems... As others have said its one less box, its all on the hand controller. Works fine, i never bother changing the boost setting i use my foot even though i have different boost settings to choose from Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/424657-power-fc-boost-controller-kit-reviews/#findComment-6839299 Share on other sites More sharing options...
STATUS Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 better off with another controller like blitz dsbc or greddy profec b unless the physical boost control hardware is going to be spot on (base spring rates, preload etc). Dont get me wrong the PFC one works well but is not flash when there is any deficiency physically... there are a few tricks in the software but it just doesn't have enough logic to match a stand alone unit. Any small physical deficiency in the boost control system cannot be rectified with PFC logic whereas a standalone will generally pull it back into check. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/424657-power-fc-boost-controller-kit-reviews/#findComment-6839406 Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulr33 Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 i used the pfc kit for a while and it worked pretty well one less box, good setup, good overboost protection if you are having issues be mindful of how much boost you want to run and the actuator spring rate ie dont run a 5psi wastegate spring and expect the pfc boost kit (or any elec controller) to let you run 22psi choose a reasonable sized spring in the actuator and then bleed a few psi extra via a controller Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/424657-power-fc-boost-controller-kit-reviews/#findComment-6842145 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chilzzi Posted May 23, 2013 Author Share Posted May 23, 2013 Awesome comments everyone! I'm torn haha! I'll give the PFC kit a go first and there are any dramas I'll look into something else. What are the GFB ones like? It's either something like that or a turbosmart eboost st... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/424657-power-fc-boost-controller-kit-reviews/#findComment-6862046 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmlycar Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 (edited) Old thread dig I have a gtt power fc in my c34 stagea. Now I have the factory wiring for the boost solenoid near the afm, and has power at that socket. But, the gtt has a 5 pin pug from the ecu for the boost control harness. I only have a 3 wire harness with a 5 pin plug. There is also 12v at the pin for the solenoid on the ecu socket too. Now do I use the factory wiring, or, do I run wiring to the plug for the ecu and do it that way? Edited September 25, 2015 by fmlycar Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/424657-power-fc-boost-controller-kit-reviews/#findComment-7609206 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiksluvit Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 (edited) Use the factory wiring for solenoid The extra two pins won't drive the solenoid, been there done that 3 wire/ 5 pin harness is for the boost sensor only, the two other pins aren't used on the rb25 neo Edited September 25, 2015 by chiksluvit Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/424657-power-fc-boost-controller-kit-reviews/#findComment-7609280 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmlycar Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 Cheers Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/424657-power-fc-boost-controller-kit-reviews/#findComment-7609408 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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