Would You Buy This R33 Gtr S3?

[GTRR]

Hi all,

I came across this series 3 bcnr33 and thought i would do a quick check with Japanese History Check (JHC). It looked like a very clean car with low kms - 25,000km.

http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Nissan-Skyline-1997/SSE-AD-2501342/?Cr=7&sdmvc=1

When the results came back from JHC the cars vin (blue plate) came out as a 1996 with 63,000kms on it and was brought in to AUS in 2008 with a grade R and never complied.

However the PPSR check came out as a 97 car which was complied in 98.

So here is the confusing part - If the car was complied and registered here in Australia in 1998 how does the japanese history check in Japan have it as export to Aust in 2008 with a different grade?

Any idea?

[GTRR]

Also the car is actually a non-v spec and not a v - spec which is confirmed with the buyer - the dash does not have the a-lsd and also the rear diff does not have the fins on them.

[AMR33]

since you've done the checks, it may help to inquire with the seller. Maybe he can provide an explanation

[pistol-pete]

considering the main purchase point of that car appears to be the low km's, i would be asking for the japanese de-registration papers to help prove the km's

[pistol-pete]

also i wouldnt spend $35k on a stock 33 gtr. maybe if it was a low km lm edition or it had like 10k kms but even then its only worth the money if you never drive it.

[GTR-N1]

...which also means that once it gets driven more Kms, the value drops exponentially.

[Mr.H]

Series 3....thought they have a cut out/vent on the LHS of the front bar basically infront of the wheel, unless it has been replaced but why do that if its a S3?

[pistol-pete]

that vent comes with the nismo oil cooler. was standard on uk delivered cars i believe and may have been a dealer option back in the day

[Sovereign337]

It does look like a clean S3, however I am puzzled by the low kms and the V-Spec sticker as that does spell dishonesty.

I think it's becoming hard to put prices on these cars, it's more about what you want to pay for one and less what they're actually "worth"

[GTRR]

Yeh that's the problem he doesn't have the de registration paper work.

With JHC they provided me with the de registration paperwork for that cars vin and it came out as a 1996 model with 64,000kms and with the grade R and imported to AUS in 2008.

He told me there must be a mistake or some mistype so I checked it over and over again and it is 100% the correct VIN.

So that's what's so confusing, PPRS states though that the car was registered here in AUS in 1998.

[djvoodoo]

Possibility of rebirth in Japan and they copied the same VIN details in 2008?

[Ants]

Yeh that's the problem he doesn't have the de registration paper work.

With JHC they provided me with the de registration paperwork for that cars vin and it came out as a 1996 model with 64,000kms and with the grade R and imported to AUS in 2008.

He told me there must be a mistake or some mistype so I checked it over and over again and it is 100% the correct VIN.

So that's what's so confusing, PPRS states though that the car was registered here in AUS in 1998.

there is enough rotten fish smell to indicate to stay away from this car mate.

[GTR-N1]

I was waiting for someone to come along and associate boats with fish.

[GTRR]

Yeh looks like I'm staying away from this one.

It's ashame because the car is pretty clean.

[BuuBox]

Did you ask JHC to confirm?

It does look very clean, has the appropriate plates for a 1998 registered car, and VicRoads has 1998 as the compliance year if you check their website. The seller also apparently has the rego papers from 1998.

What build year comes up in FAST or a Nissan VIN interpreter?

Edited May 17, 2014 by BuuBox

[GTRR]

Yes I have confirmed it with JHC. I paid to get the deregistration sheet and they did a free check on the auction sheet.

Unfortunately for me they couldn't provide me an auction sheet as it was missing in file but they could provide me the following:

Auction: CAA Tokyo

Lot No: 1282

Date: 02/09/2008

Description: Nissan Skyline GT-R

Type: BCNR33

Chassis No: BCNR33-023136

Transmission: F5

Color: White

Displacement: 2600

Equipment: AAC

Inspection: 2010.04

Year: 1996

Scores: R

Mileage, km: 64,000

[GTRR]

You can look at the month of production details for the chassis number via epc-data: http://nissan.epc-data.com/skyline/bcnr33/3934-rb26dett/?frame_no=BCNR33-023136

[GTR-N1]

You'd really want to know off the auction sheet what "R" (for repaired) really means!

[BuuBox]

You'd really want to know off the auction sheet what "R" (for repaired) really means!

It's not the same car though, unless the Victorian registration in 1998 is an elaborate ruse. The VIN Vicroads has recorded is also the old style import VIN with seemingly random numbers.

It could be a rebirth with that chassis number in Japan, or even an administrative error.

considering the main purchase point of that car appears to be the low km's, i would be asking for the japanese de-registration papers to help prove the km's

Did they exist in 1997/1998?

Edited May 18, 2014 by BuuBox

[Ants]

It's not the same car though, unless the Victorian registration in 1998 is an elaborate ruse. The VIN Vicroads has recorded is also the old style import VIN with seemingly random numbers.

It could be a rebirth with that chassis number in Japan, or even an administrative error.

Did they exist in 1997/1998?

yes