Kisuu_Buta Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 An interesting comparison of the newest Hypercars being offered by Ferrari with its LaFerrari, Mclaren its P1 and the Porsche 918 Sypder. (Apologies for the multiple posts, it won't allow me to embed more than two video's in one post?) http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/laferrari-vs-mclaren-p1-vs-porsche-918-spyder Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/444303-supercars-no-its-hypercars-now/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kisuu_Buta Posted June 11, 2014 Author Share Posted June 11, 2014 http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Kb8tGX-HPQE 1 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/444303-supercars-no-its-hypercars-now/#findComment-7309160 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kisuu_Buta Posted June 11, 2014 Author Share Posted June 11, 2014 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/444303-supercars-no-its-hypercars-now/#findComment-7309161 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy1600 Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 The LaFerrari sounds incredible. Chris Harris is the only person worth watching, however. How those other f**king boring numpties got that gig is beyond me. What a pack of staid, boring dream boats. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/444303-supercars-no-its-hypercars-now/#findComment-7309196 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoomzoom Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 The LaFerrari sounds incredible. Chris Harris is the only person worth watching, however. How those other f**king boring numpties got that gig is beyond me. What a pack of staid, boring dream boats. I have always had the impression that Steve Sutcliffe gets paid to say certain things otherwise he doesn't get to drive super expensive cars. The way he constantly gushes on about cars he is reviewing seems fake to me. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/444303-supercars-no-its-hypercars-now/#findComment-7309207 Share on other sites More sharing options...
me_larr Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 Talk shit about the car you're reviewing and get the banstick from the manufacturer...simple. Politics as much as $$$ have got plenty to do with the comments in the reviews I reckon. IIRC, didn't Chris Harris get the banstick from Ferrari? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/444303-supercars-no-its-hypercars-now/#findComment-7309273 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy1600 Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 Talk shit about the car you're reviewing and get the banstick from the manufacturer...simple. Politics as much as $$$ have got plenty to do with the comments in the reviews I reckon. IIRC, didn't Chris Harris get the banstick from Ferrari? He shit canned them for their pre-test development and sending ring in's to a group test. Apparently they always send two cars to a group test, with explicit instructions to use one for straight line and one for track testing. And they send a teat of engineers along too. The other companies just hand over a car and politely ask for it not to be crashed. Good on him for calling their bullshit and well done Ferrari for screwing your actual customers (who don't get the cars the tests lead them to believe they are purchasing) and doing what you can to damage your brand. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/444303-supercars-no-its-hypercars-now/#findComment-7309306 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kisuu_Buta Posted June 12, 2014 Author Share Posted June 12, 2014 This is the article where he roasts Ferrari ; http://jalopnik.com/5760248/how-ferrari-spins Truth be told most big manufacturers must spend some time making sure the car is sorted before giving them out to journo's. New pads/rotors, clutch, fluids and fresh tyres etc I have seen both video's and articles where the car used for the road test and track test are changed. Maybe not to the same degree Ferrari have employed in that example. You can't really blame Ferrari for wanting there car to look good, but I do agree lying about real world performance is wrong and misleading. For all his anger at Ferrari for that behaviour it doesn't make him not want to own one! ...http://jalopnik.com/5937349/why-did-chris-harris-buy-a-ferrari-599 All I really care about is that he gives the best reviews and insights into cars I’ll prob never drive! Watch him drifting a F12 Berlinetta with Ferrari's blessing I might add?? Figure that one out? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/444303-supercars-no-its-hypercars-now/#findComment-7310034 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYTSKY Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 No Koenigsegg? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/444303-supercars-no-its-hypercars-now/#findComment-7310228 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy1600 Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 Is the one actually available yet? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/444303-supercars-no-its-hypercars-now/#findComment-7310726 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kisuu_Buta Posted June 13, 2014 Author Share Posted June 13, 2014 Lot's of options at this end of the ultra rich market, I started with the big three for obvious reasons. But there are definitely some pretty crazy cars available if money is no object... The Koenigsegg Agera R Hennessey Venom Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/444303-supercars-no-its-hypercars-now/#findComment-7310942 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYTSKY Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 Is the one actually available yet?No. Plus they are all sold anyway, should have got in a lot earlier. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/444303-supercars-no-its-hypercars-now/#findComment-7311048 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trex Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 This is the article where he roasts Ferrari ; http://jalopnik.com/5760248/how-ferrari-spins Truth be told most big manufacturers must spend some time making sure the car is sorted before giving them out to journo's. New pads/rotors, clutch, fluids and fresh tyres etc I have seen both video's and articles where the car used for the road test and track test are changed. Maybe not to the same degree Ferrari have employed in that example. You can't really blame Ferrari for wanting there car to look good, but I do agree lying about real world performance is wrong and misleading. For all his anger at Ferrari for that behaviour it doesn't make him not want to own one! ...http://jalopnik.com/5937349/why-did-chris-harris-buy-a-ferrari-599 All I really care about is that he gives the best reviews and insights into cars Ill prob never drive! Watch him drifting a F12 Berlinetta with Ferrari's blessing I might add?? Figure that one out? It was a good read. An eye opener into how far Ferrari will go to win some numbers games. I know a lot of the top manufacturers have a strong grasp on the media and how their company is displayed, after all why wouldn't you? They hold the power to which media outlet is to host their next 'big thing' and being of such prestige and class they have a firm grasp for years to come, it doesn't matter what some media outlets say. Reminds me of some of the traders on this website, they have immunity from dodgy products because they give to the forum, the same as Ferrari give media outlets money in the form of listeners readers and viewers. ferrari's time of 2 seconds faster 0-100mph vs the typical owner of the same car is not so shocking to me. Again who is going to be the whistle blower. Understand that all sports cars are different, even if they are the same make and model, and none will be bang dead on with one another. I have to say 2 seconds is a lot of lost time and Ferrari can't cover that up. Don't bother with the 'tyres' debate. We all know manufacturers and dealerships have different options when it comes to what grade tyre you would like. Ferrari seem like the typical over achiever in the automotive world. You know, the one who breaks all the rules to get ahead, but cry like a 2 year old child when things don't go their way. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/444303-supercars-no-its-hypercars-now/#findComment-7311167 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad082 Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Nothing new with car companies being generous with performance times. There's certainly question over the r35 gtr lap time around the ring after porsche went and bought one from a dealer, took it to the track and their driver couldn't get within 25 seconds of Nissan's claimed time. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/444303-supercars-no-its-hypercars-now/#findComment-7312179 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTR-N1 Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Nothing new with car companies being generous with performance times. There's certainly question over the r35 gtr lap time around the ring after porsche went and bought one from a dealer, took it to the track and their driver couldn't get within 25 seconds of Nissan's claimed time. That proves it! A "claimed time" means an extra sale - even from Porsche!!! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/444303-supercars-no-its-hypercars-now/#findComment-7313769 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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