R32 Gtr Purchase

[jaysevu]

hey guys, sorry if this is an innaproptiate thread but i need some advice as im genreally to nieve and trusting in these situations, especially when i really like the car.

This is the car in question;

Its a 93 GTR, recently imported with 76,xxx KMS and standard apart from cat back and lowered springs. I rang the dealership as i cant view it yet due to the fact that im in Vic and theyre in Syd. First thing i asked was for the import papers to which he replied he didnt have any as it was imported from a private buyer in japan. I instantly saw that as a red flag and said i wasnt interested and hung up. He rang back 2minutes later stating that he had some registration papers showing the car was registered in 08 with 69,000km's and in 2011 had only 71,000 km's so just looks to be a car that was barely driven which leads me to believe the current k's could be legit.

Hes taking more photos of the underbody and under the boot carpets for me and providing vin so i can do my own checks. He also sounded happy for me to have comp tests and and any outside testing. TBH, the car does look like a low K example but yeah who knows

Just wanting to hear what you guys think and if youve had any similar experiences. No import papers is def throwing me off at this stage.

Edited August 19, 2014 by jaysevu

[Hadouken]

Just get Vin and contact JOC. They will provide the papers you require for a small fee

[Anfanee]

That car was optioned up from factory. Missing the knee pads in the drivers footwell.

Looks to be good condition but more details would be required

[jaysevu]

yeah he's emailing me the vin and ill do the odometer check.. i was just worried that he was keeping the auction papers from me on purpose to hide something

[Anfanee]

Anything is possible mate

[The Baron]

Ok, here it goes........

"I would never buy an R32 GTR from an Aussie Dealer !!!"

The horror stories are all too numerous and with cars such as these there is often more then you can see. As an example, I would contend that the plenum on this particular car has definitely had a respray, which means it has been out of the car, which means other parts of the engine have been fiddled with etc etc etc.

Now none of this means that the car is not ok - all of this could have been done by respectable people with good intentions but where is the proof??

When I bought my R32, I looked for one with full 'provenance'. This means that I have full books, all service receipts, everything that had been done to the car in 20 years. The only way I could get such a car is to get it directly imported (you will find my recommendation in the appropiate thread).

There may be cars in the country with a similar 'provenance', but all of these will be described as such and i'd be surprised to find one at a Dealer. There is a great thread on all the minimum documentation you might want to see including the Japanese deregistration certificate, the import approval, the auction sheet and and the compliance certificate, which should all match. Also there was a recent thread in this forum on a dealer actually providing a falsified auction sheet.

TL:DR - be careful, use only recommended people from this forum

Cheers and good luck

The Baron

[jiffo]

Interesting amount of advance.

[Hadouken]

Dayumn. That's an eye

[jaysevu]

great info there Andreas.. idealy id like to buy a car from someone whos owned it for quite a few years so they can give me abit of history on the car but yeah this one just looked too good not to show an interest in. I tried comparing the bay shot with others to see if the plenum had been resprayed but i couldnt really tell? Why do you say it has? is it too good?

Also do you guys know if there is some sort of register you can see which cars where imported to AUS and when? i think ive seen someone post it up before in the Vspec thread..

[The Baron]

There is a special thread for all Aussie delivered cars but not necessarily our 'grey' imports.

As for the plenum, my car has 20,000 original kms and I can tell you my plenum does not look that good ;-)

As for cars with history - as I said, I imported mine and asked the broker to only consider cars with full history - if you use the right importer, they can get what you want.

Ofcourse it all depends what you want to do with the car. I wanted a collectors piece, unmolested and will never modify it.

If you want 500kw, then you need rebuilds etc anyway so original condition is less critical.

Put the call out in the Victorian section of the forum and see whether they know any good cars for sale.

Cheers

The Baron

[jaysevu]

im in no rush to buy so i guess importing could be an option..a safer one at that. Im planning to do the same as you andreas apart from some coilovers and wheels at some point but apart from that i just want to maintain it and keep it as close to standard as possible so i want the best i can buy within my budget.. Ive since been in contact with a broker who showed me a 4.5b 94 gtr going to auction this week, basically the same as the one i posted in this thread so ill keep you posted.

[The Baron]

im in no rush to buy so i guess importing could be an option..a safer one at that. Im planning to do the same as you andreas apart from some coilovers and wheels at some point but apart from that i just want to maintain it and keep it as close to standard as possible so i want the best i can buy within my budget.. Ive since been in contact with a broker who showed me a 4.5b 94 gtr going to auction this week, basically the same as the one i posted in this thread so ill keep you posted.

Sounds promising

Good luck

Cheers

The Baron

[SS-]

I was looking at the same gtr lol iv been eying this; one

http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Nissan-Skyline-1990/SSE-AD-2948935

Not sure if you like the colour, havent contacted him tho as not ready to buy right now

[Sinista32]

the wine red one could well be a member on here

one of the photo's looks to be from the 2012 SAU Nationals at Shepparton

[gtr jet]

Even if it doesn't have all the matching paper work, what's wrong with a car that's clean as a whistle and comes in at the right price.

If it were me I'd just get an extremely thorough inspection and go from there.

[The Baron]

Even if it doesn't have all the matching paper work, what's wrong with a car that's clean as a whistle and comes in at the right price.

If it were me I'd just get an extremely thorough inspection and go from there.

Potentially there is nothing wrong with the car - it could all be good.......however statistically speaking, most 'tarted up' GTR's from dealers end up having significant issues (such as being 'R' rated repaired vehicles etc.)

That's why the documentation is important - it tells you whether the car is straight or repaired, kms genuine, what work has been done etc. As an example, a 76K kms car that has really done closer to 90 or even over 100 - has the timing belt been done ?? When a GTR blows its internals, its an expensive fix.

So all I am saying is that my 'risk appetite' is low and I'd rather pay more up front for a 'clean' car, then snap up a bargain that breaks down on the way home....

It's 'horses for courses' and just my 2c - but I have heard too many horror stories (just search for Edward Lee on this forum)

Cheers

The cautious Baron

[Anfanee]

Either way expect to spend double toe purchase price of your GTR at some point. They are 25 years old doesn't matter how you look at it.

[gtr jet]

That's a fair enough point.

Put it this way. I paid $12,000 for my GTR when I was young and didn't know any better. I had no idea of the condition but it looked clean enough from the outside.

The car probably owe's me close to $40,000 today and that's still with a body full of rust and plenty of other issues that need sorting.

If I had my time again I'd take my time and pay a lot more for a decent one.

Your car is beautiful Andreas but I don't think I'd buy one that clean as I do like to give my car a hiding and it does spend some time on the track.

[(OO)SKYLINE(OO)]

hey guys, sorry if this is an innaproptiate thread but i need some advice as im genreally to nieve and trusting in these situations, especially when i really like the car.

This is the car in question;

Its a 93 GTR, recently imported with 76,xxx KMS and standard apart from cat back and lowered springs. I rang the dealership as i cant view it yet due to the fact that im in Vic and theyre in Syd. First thing i asked was for the import papers to which he replied he didnt have any as it was imported from a private buyer in japan. I instantly saw that as a red flag and said i wasnt interested and hung up. He rang back 2minutes later stating that he had some registration papers showing the car was registered in 08 with 69,000km's and in 2011 had only 71,000 km's so just looks to be a car that was barely driven which leads me to believe the current k's could be legit.

Hes taking more photos of the underbody and under the boot carpets for me and providing vin so i can do my own checks. He also sounded happy for me to have comp tests and and any outside testing. TBH, the car does look like a low K example but yeah who knows

Just wanting to hear what you guys think and if youve had any similar experiences. No import papers is def throwing me off at this stage.

Give us a look at the VIN and Comp Test results when done.

Get as many pics / info and let us have a look.

[The Baron]

That's a fair enough point.

Put it this way. I paid $12,000 for my GTR when I was young and didn't know any better. I had no idea of the condition but it looked clean enough from the outside.

The car probably owe's me close to $40,000 today and that's still with a body full of rust and plenty of other issues that need sorting.

If I had my time again I'd take my time and pay a lot more for a decent one.

Your car is beautiful Andreas but I don't think I'd buy one that clean as I do like to give my car a hiding and it does spend some time on the track.

I know where you come from, Option 1 was to buy a car for $20K then put another $20K into it for a fun weekend track car........Option 2 was to blow it all on a collectable weekend 'cruiser' - guess I got the 2nd option ;-)

No regrets on my part and after I win that $70million Powerball tomorrow I can get back to option 1....

Cheers

The its $40K either way Baron