Jump to content
SAU Community

Recommended Posts

So I thought I'd have a go at rolling the rear guards using one of those cool roller tools, didn't get very far.

Basically the inner lip is pretty much horizontal at the moment and I don't seem to be able to adjust the tool short enough to get the roller at the right angle. It's sitting too sharp against the edge of the the lip, which wants to eat into the roller rather than being bent back. See photos below.

User error? Any tips?

14921217203_d4806a234e.jpg

15355764480_bf1b15172d.jpg

Here's the best video I could find on how to use the roller:

And yes I'm heating the lip & paint first.

Link to comment
https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/449731-guard-rolling-tips/
Share on other sites

Jacking up would make it worse I think. I would tap it with a rubber mallet. Or undo shock so hub can drop more.

Yep I did that, it dropped the LCA by an inch or two but still not enough space to get the right angle for the roller. I'm surprised that you can't adjust the tool any shorter...

Use the newspaper method of creating the clearance required.

Shamelessly stolen from the 300 forum. I used this to get my rears to fit and it works a treat!

First of all, you're going to want to jack up the rear by the tow hook, and remove he rear wheel. The you're going to want to disconnect the lower mount of the rear shock.
2011-09-08_21-04-39_179.jpg

Remove the nut and bolt, and swing the lower mount out of the way.
2011-09-08_21-05-01_813.jpg
2011-09-08_21-05-12_673.jpg

Make sure the lower mount is clear of everything. You do not want it to catch on anything.

With the car in the air, and the wheel at full droop, this is what it looks like:
2011-09-08_21-07-01_7.jpg
Not too bad, but remember it will camber in a bit, like so:
2011-09-08_21-09-35_748.jpg
The fender just catches the tire, so rubbing will occur.

Next, you're going to want to heat up the fender, from where I'm point at, and to the right. Use either a heat gun, or if you're brave, a propane torch, lol
2011-09-08_21-07-23_731.jpg

You want to hit the fender from the bottom and up, to heat up the lip of the fender on both sides.
2011-09-08_21-07-57_624.jpg

Next, grab about less than a thumb's width of newspaper for the initial treatment.
2011-09-08_21-09-18_240.jpg
Again, I'm using mechanic's paper floor mats. It works just as well.

With the fender heated, stuff the newspaper into the wheel arch, between the fender and tire. Make sure to have the newspaper span the whole area you heated up, or else you'll pull one section more than the other.
2011-09-08_21-10-09_127.jpg

Then you're going to drop the car slowly, until the tire touches the floor, and the wheel begins to tuck itself inside the fender.
2011-09-08_21-10-26_708.jpg

Now, it will make some noise it is just the sound of the fender sliding over the newspaper. Let it sit for couple of minutes, to give the fender time to cool off and take shape. You're going to want to then raise the car and remove the paper. Drop it back down to where you're tucking tire, like so:
2011-09-08_21-11-48_615.jpg

You're going to want to check for rubbing issues. What I do is take some thin paper, and slide it between the tire and fender:
2011-09-08_21-12-10_552.jpg
2011-09-08_21-12-16_224.jpg

If the paper snags, then you still need to pull more. The tire was touching the fender in the area between where the paper is placers in the two pics.
Again, heat up the fender, and grab more paper.
2011-09-08_21-12-56_607.jpg

Rinse and repeat as needed.
2011-09-08_21-14-52_349.jpg

You can see the fender slowly taking a flat flared look
2011-09-08_21-15-08_905.jpg

Just as a warning, the driver side fender will require more effort to pull, due to the gas cap there reinforcing the fender. So don't freak out if you need significantly more newspaper on the driver side than on the passenger side.

Keep repeating the process by adding a slight amount more newspaper at every pass. My passenger side took 2 passes. Driver side took 4. Again, this is normal. And here are the results:
2011-09-08_22-01-35_565.jpg
2011-09-08_22-19-51_204.jpg
2011-09-08_22-19-58_166.jpg

doesnt look like you need it much shorter, try cutting the outer sleeve of the tool down to just before the lock bolt thread. that might give you enough

Thanks man, that's a good idea. Unfortunately it's mate's tool so can't really go modding it, I think I'll let someone else do this job..

Ended up getting this done at a shop, they used a different type of roller that had more adjustment (and seemed more sturdy in general).

The technique itself is pretty simple, just make sure you keep heating it thoroughly and all the time!

  • 3 weeks later...

Followup, turns out that passenger side is perfect but they cracked the paint on driver's side, not brilliant. I guess it's just like with anything else, you get what you pay for...

I applied some clear coat straight after but now couple of weeks later I'm noticing some rust coming through :( I'm going to try putting some more clear in there but I think that's just a temporary fix.

Can anyone please recommend a paint/body shop in inner Melb who could fix this up properly?

Thanks guys.

  • 4 weeks later...

Got this patched up at a local shop for a reasonable price.

Moral of the story - don't get a backyard guard rolling job as fixing it up will cost you more than rolling it in the first place...

  • Like 1

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now


  • Similar Content

  • Latest Posts

    • Slow when hot could also be because its getting more dynamic compression, OR things are getting a bit tighter once it is all expanded. If it were an earthing issue, typically I'd expect you to have it have issues all the time. Unless it's really a combination of both things. Where the higher compression, and things being a bit tighter, is giving that bit of extra load and you do need a slight clean up on the cables/connections.
    • Yeah, this is one of the most annoying things about nissan part numbers... I've got an unrelated example... Image is of the AT output shaft ~ they have the same part#, but clearly the shaft on the left is beefier design to that on the right ...the difference (essentially) is the 'lighter' shaft on the right, is for engines up to RB25DE (this includes RB20 variants) : the shaft on the left is for RB25/26DET(T)....are they interchangeable? Yes...but obviously one shaft is going to be stronger than the other...and, the lighter shaft is around USD115, but the heavier shaft closer to USD150...same part#... ...epc-data usually tells a tale ~ the amayama listing for 39100-23U60 has a note "Longest side is between 60 and 105 cm" ; no such info is there for 39100-23U70 ...and given the great disparity in price between the 2 parts, it makes me at least curious (to the point of caution) where the 'extra money' went? ...ie; these 2 parts have a cost difference that (to myself at least) isn't explained by 'plastic boot'...ie; with amayama there's AUD700 price difference ...plastic versus rubber?...I'm not seeing it like that...and 60cm ~ 105cm...??...that's a huge disparity....something hinky going on here... I'd try searching by VIN, not model... /2cents
    • I don't know for sure, but I'd expect them all to be interchangeable given the diff end and hub end don't move/change between any C34 series. Often Nissan will change part numbers and the aftermarket follows those year ranges; but the original part number change doesn't mean other parts won't fit. The change could be a change in material, internal parts or even just supplier. For example, all the RB gearbox to engine bolts are no longer available and there is a new part number instead. The only change is they went from cadmium plated bolts to zinc plated due to the issues manufacturing with Cadmium. They look different but work the same.
    • One year is a bit concerning. Did you try contacting GSP? It says 5 year warranty on the box if I remember correctly. I'm also running their driveshafts on my S2 Stagea.   You could check the part numbers on Amayama for your year. Here's the link for my 1998 which gives the 39100-23U60 part number. Well, that and 39100-23U70. https://www.amayama.com/en/genuine-catalogs/epc/nissan-japan/stagea/wgnc34/6649-rb25det/trans/391 What does it say for yours?
    • I ordered a GSP Front R/H Axle from here - https://justjap.com/products/gsp-premium-front-driveshaft-r-h-nissan-r32-r33-r34-skyline-gtr-stagea-4wd#description It lasted around a year before one of the boots blew out. I'm lowered, but I have GKTech roll center adjusters. One year seems a little premature. I think I'm going to spend the extra money on an OEM cv axle this time. This website - https://tfaspeed.com/collections/nissan-stagea-wgnc34-x-four-parts/products/nissan-stagea-awc34-260rs-rb26-right-front-axle-drive-assembly Makes it sound like the readily available OEM CV axle will only fit 11.1999 Stagea and up (mine is a 2.1997 S1). The JustJap listing didn't mention any years or anything for the GSP axle. Amayama shows '11.1999' and up as well for that part number. As well as 'plastic boot type'. See attached picture. So I guess my question is, does that axle (39100-23U60) really only fit S2 Stagea? It's the front driver side. If it does, I'd love to buy that instead of rolling the dice on another GSP. I've found that OEM one cheaper here: https://www.partsfornissans.com/oem-parts/nismo-jdm-r32-r33-r34-skyline-gtr-r32-gts4-right-front-axle-3910023u60 and here https://www.nissanparts.cc/oem-parts/nismo-shaft-ft-drive-3910023u60 Just a little confused because the JapSpeed listing for the GSP front driver axle doesn't mention any specific years or anything and it fit my S1 Stagea fine. So will 39100-23U60 fit my S1 Stagea even though technically it says '11.1999' and up? What would have changed? Thanks.  
×
×
  • Create New...