wanna know about TEIN suspension kit!

[Aya]

TEIN

SUPER STREET DAMPER KIT

(Height & 16 steps Dampen Adjustable

Anyone hear about that? is that very good for the car on the bumping road? This product is fully compatible with TEIN EDFC (Electronic Damping Force Controller). Has anyone use that EDFC with TEIN suspension. I mean is the EDFC can change the damping force between like standard soft to Racing hard?

Tell me more information about it, I'm planning to buy one.

[Merli]

I have TEIN FLEX coilovers and EDFC installed on my R33 GTR.

I love it. On the softest setting, it is no harder than standard R33 V-Spec suspension, yet on the hardest setting it's really only suitable for the smoothest roads and the race track. Even on the racetrack I wouldn't use the hardest settings (I'd use 4 front/5 rear on the EDFC - 0 hardest - 16 softest)

It's actually user selectable 16 or 32 steps dampening adjustable, but I have it on 16 adjustment points as it's more than enough really.

[jezzrrr]

I, like my old buddy Merls, have Teins on my R33 GTR. I actually have Ohlins on my R34 both height and damper adjustable BUT I actually prefer the teins and I have just received a brand new set of Tein coilovers for the R34 GTR which I am replacing the Ohlins with, they are that good. Having said that my Teins are HA's which are quiet a but stiffer than the super street so if your looking for a good street ride then I think you are going for the right option.

Also if you check the tein site (tein.co.jp) you will find the spring rates for all tein models.

[whiteq's]

so you guys don't mind the teins, i have a silvia and many on the silvia forum say that teins are just too hard for daily driving, i am putting a rb25det in, in summer and need some new suspension, was thinking of either tein or cusco coilovers, but been advised against tein because of roughness, possibly this differs from the differing designs btween the skyline and silvia, just interested.

so i guess for both Aya and i am asking this because me girl aint going to be happy with my riide being super hard although i want something harder than standard.

thanx

josh

[Aya]

I agree with whiteq's, coz my gril just warning me that if I buy the suspension like a very uncomfortable one. She gonna be very angry. So if I buy that suspention and also with the EDFC, as like Merli and jezzrrr said can change the damping force to be softest. The soft feeling is same as the standard suspension? If that is, I will buy it. Coz the factory suspension in my R32 is nearly finish. Gonna change soon.

Thx guys!

[Merli]

:spcow:

What do you want me to say? How can I explain in words how the ride is? Go find someone with the suspension you want and go for a ride.

All coilover packages are hard. That's what they're for. If you want to appease your girlfriend's butt, get normal springs and shock upgrade like the Whiteline kit. That will be harder thand stock but softer than coilovers... It won't handle as well as a harder coilover suspension setup though.

[jezzrrr]

With caution in mind (and not wanting to start a debate/argument) I have to say that all coilover packages arent necesarily hard and they are not designed to be hard, they are designed with ease of height adjustment in mind. If you choose spring rates carefully and have other suspension supports like sway bars etc in place you can acheive good handling with a reasonably comfrotable ride.

[Roy]

:spcow:

It won't handle as well as a harder coilover suspension setup though.

Harder does tend to make the car feel as though it handles better, but it doesnt mean the car will have more grip.

Shock and spring is there to ensure the tyre maintains in contact with the road, running springs/shock to limit body roll doesnt mean that the car can then do all the other things it needs to do well. Things like getting good power down, brake well, corner and change direction.

Stiff susp does make the car feel real agile though, a benefit when our cars can sometimes be up around 1500kgs

[jezzrrr]

Harder does tend to make the car feel as though it handles better, but it doesnt mean the car will have more grip.

Shock and spring is there to ensure the tyre maintains in contact with the road, running springs/shock to limit body roll doesnt mean that the car can then do all the other things it needs to do well. Things like getting good power down, brake well, corner and change direction.

Stiff susp does make the car feel real agile though, a benefit when our cars can sometimes be up around 1500kgs

100% agreed, I am a big fan of stiff suspension, however if youre not dont avoid coilovers because theyre simply not made to be hard.

[Sydneykid]

I have 5 sets of springs for our R32 GTST, they range from 180 lbs (3kg/mm) up to 450 lbs (8kg/mm). All of them are "coil over" springs, they fit on shocks with adjustable lower spring seats for height adjustment. I have a set of "non coil overs" in another of our cars that are fitted wiht 325 lb front springs. So saying "coil overs" are hard and "non coil overs are soft" is abviously not the case. That's the advantage of coil overs, I can have whatever spring rate I want and I can adjust the height of the car to compensate.

All I need to do is make sure the shocks have sufficient damper adjustment to control that range of springs rates.

[Merli]

True, but in general, spring rates found in Japanese coilover kits are much stiffer than those found in springs and shocks kits.

But quoting a whole range of springs is pretty redundant, unless they came as options with the off-the-shelf kits we are discussing... As we all know I could go get a set of 20lbs springs for my coilovers or 500lb springs for my non-coilovers...

Also you can get drag pro coilovers with softer springs too, so it all depends on what you want.

[Sydneykid]

But quoting a whole range of springs is pretty redundant, unless they came as options with the off-the-shelf kits we are discussing...

That's exactly the point I was making, why buy a Japanese brand name set of coil overs that you have no choice of spring rates in? Better to buy a local set where you can choose not only the spring rate but the damper rate as well. Plus you get European shock technology, and all for a cheaper price. I'm with you Merli,

it all depends on what you want

[Merli]

True that! Don't forget the local made coilovers! Easier to get service for them too, when they need to be reconditioned!

Do you have any experience with DMS? I had a set of 50mm Giant Strut DMS coilovers on my old GTS-t, and they were magical. A little hard for everyday street use, but at Eastern Creek they were PERFECT. Full range of spring rate options available for your choosing too!

[Sydneykid]

True that! Don't forget the local made coilovers! Easier to get service for them too, when they need to be reconditioned!

Do you have any experience with DMS? I had a set of 50mm Giant Strut DMS coilovers on my old GTS-t, and they were magical. A little hard for everyday street use, but at Eastern Creek they were PERFECT. Full range of spring rate options available for your choosing too!

Yep, Jamie makes good stuff

[Aya]

Thx Guys! I will buy the TEIN Super Street Dammper with the EDFC, I read a part of the GTR magazine. it says that suspension works very well. Also its cheap. hehe....

thx Sydney kid,merli,jezzrrr, roy and whiteq.

[mokompri]

newb to the forum here, i love the suspension section on this forum, its alot more indepth then any other forum ive been on, there all mainly on engine performance.. but anyways just had a quick question, ive heard very little of DMS before and forgot about them until now, but my question is besides whiteline and DMS, what other local options do we have that you guys talk about ?... in terms of suspension ie coilovers

oh btw aya, how much they end up setting you back ?

[Birnie]

Thx Guys! I will buy the TEIN Super Street Dammper with the EDFC, I read a part of the GTR magazine. it says that suspension works very well. Also its cheap. hehe....  

thx Sydney kid,merli,jezzrrr, roy and whiteq.

Searching around for info on this product and found this thread.

Let me know how they are when you get em!

Thanks dude