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B-Man Grand Master

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I know your taking the piss, but being serious for a moment, I think there is definately room in the Sydney market for another straight foward, no BS importer.

LW.

Well you know what - I am sort of semi serious and tossing around ideas - I need to speak to some people in the industry about it.

The problem is the 15 YO rule and what's gonna happen to it in the future.

SEVS compliance has also put a quasher on the Grey Import scene.

I've been suscribed to PM's search - for a car for my dad recently and you can still get some really nice cars you just gotta wait for the good ones. Not not everyone one wants to trawl through mountains of Auction data and not everyone wants the wait.

If someone local to Australia removes the risk factor and supplies good cars , no bullshit service then yes I think it would be a winner.

How financially successful NO BULLSHIT IMPORTS would be is another story :mad: he he

Duncan Grand Master

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How financially successful NO BULLSHIT IMPORTS would be is another story :( he he

Well personally I think thats the problem....when you think about the numbers you start to understand what dealers need to charge.

Say you buy a $15k (landed in Aus) GTST to sell. You have to add $4k for compliance, and of course you had to pay up front for the car but it takes up to 3 months to be on your yard.

You have to offer a warranty (say $500 insurance style). You will have to polish and detail the car when it gets here $500. And register it including the RTA inspections $1000.

Edit: You need to charge GST on the sale price, say $2000.

You have to employ at least 1 full time sales person, say $35,000 per year. You need a yard, say $25,000 per year.

None of this includes any profit for the business....so how much do you have to sell the car for?

Now remember that any person can buy that same $15k GTST thru a broker, add $1100 fee and the compliance $4000. And of course the private buyer never includes the cost of their time running around.

IMHO, Bottom line is No Bullsh1t imports exists at places like Powerplay Imports.......you can't expect to pay absolute bottom dollar for a good car from a dealer who is trying to make a living.....

It would, however be *much* easier to buy a $6K GTST and spend a couple of grand making it look good, then selling it for $18k and hoping the buyer doesn't notice. I'm not suggesting this is what Envy do, but there ARE plenty of dealers who do, and this is what NO BULLSH1T IMPORTS would have to compete with :mad:

madcabbie Contributor

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I totally agree with you Duncan, My uncle owns a Ford, Nissan,Hyundi and BMW dealerships in Orange (alas no performance imports) So i know the crap he has to deal with. And import dealers have alot more to do as you said.

I was checking the prices from Prestige Motorsports, for there auctions and when you factor in everything, you can pay almost the same from a dealer here (who you can trust) and you get to drive , sit, look and checkout the car before you hand over your cash. All for about the same as they are asking to import ones now. Plus you get a warrenty

The only main difference i see in importing is you can get cars that have all the mods on, but, if its a not 15y/o car, these mods now have to be removed prior to compliancing anyway. Yes you can put them back on, but theres that labour cost on putting a second hand part back onto your car that you aren't sure about in the first place.

Oh and regarding the Budget Duncan, I will have the cash to fix what may go wrong with whatever car i do decide to get, its just that I am not a patient man , and couldn't be bothered saving for a couple of months to have a few grand extra. I would rather borrow now, have some fun and pay the loan of in extra quick time.

Heres a quicky for you though. What do you guys think of the pulsar GTi-R? Are they prone to problems as much as the skylines? I don't mind them either and like I said before, I am open to all options on what car I get as long as its Got a turbo, its an import and it looks good. But I am not shallow :wassup:

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I was checking the prices from Prestige Motorsports, for there auctions and when you factor in everything, you can pay almost the same from a dealer here (who you can trust) and you get to drive , sit, look and checkout the car before you hand over your cash. All for about the same as they are asking to import ones now.  Plus you get a warrenty

I bought my R33 GTS25t.M/LSD from BEN @ Northshore Prestige in Balgowlah - May 2004. I did shop around first, but found they had good quality/price combination. There was also no bullshit. Couple of young guys own and run the business. Not a salesman in sight. They were happy to put it up on the hoist for detailed inspection prior to purchase.

Had some small problems (leaky exhaust, leaky rear shock, split in rear GTR wing, ABS & active LSD not functioning - due to broken wire). ALL were fixed under warranty - with absolutely no hassles or cost to me.

All up, it was one of the best retail experiences I've had. Bottom line is - if I was looking for another one, its the first place I'd go.

Good luck........cheers :)

bbenny Mentor

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I bought my skyline off Envy, and had them do all my initial service work.

I have nothing bad to say about them, they were very cheap, extremely helpful. I have heard ppl say negative things on here before, but my dealings with them were all great.

now that i have learnt alot more about the RB engine (thanks to this forum) i only use envy now to order my parts and i just do everything else, and they are always extremely helpful and very well priced.

wises Enthusiast

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Originally Posted by madcabbie

I was checking the prices from Prestige Motorsports, for there auctions and when you factor in everything, you can pay almost the same from a dealer here (who you can trust)

almost, but still about 5k cheaper (in my personal expererience)

it does require alot of patients but it will be worth (so i am told :D)

Originally Posted by madcabbie

Heres a quicky for you though. What do you guys think of the pulsar GTi-R? Are they prone to problems as much as the skylines?

i have a friend with one :throwup: hes blown his gearbox up 3 times!!! to me it sounds like a good reason to STEAR CLEAR (no offence to gtir lovers)

also i have seen lately on prestige that the r33's have the compliance included in the price and are still very cheap, so i could only assume that something has been worked out with compliance with non standard parts

:D he he enjoy the ride....at least while you dont actually have.... your ride :D

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