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no one should..

Just hate the whole kicking a man when he is down. He ****ed up and he is paying for it with fines and loss of license. Now lets use this opportunity to say yeah dude you ****ed up but did you nkow you can come to the track and its not expensive.

Exactly! As far as i see it: trackday will cost around $80 but also brake pads, petrol, time off work and the rest if i did miss something will equate to a $400 dollar day for some people. I do intend on going to trackdays and the rest when my car is finally sorted, so hopefully by the new year.

Why is it that we can find money to change the exhaust, bigger intercooler, flashy bodykit, eye catching paint job, ear deafening sound system, bigger turbo/injectors, pod lifters, 19 inch chrome wheels, etc... but trackdays are so expensive? Hell, I don't think the 1/4 mile strip is more than a trackday now. :confused:

If you think trackdays are expensive then isn't a speeding fine more expensive? Plus court fines, hiring a lawyer, etc...

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Dude I got done for 137 in a 90 zone on Mona Vale Rd and that got me 580 and 4 points (cause I had 12). Had I 6 or less they would have run home the suspension of 3 months. If you have over the 6 then generally the suspensions don't come into it. Got a mate who was clocked at 237 in a 110 and lost it for a year with a $2500 contribution to the policemans ball. So yours doesn't seem that bad does it.

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Why is it that we can find money to change the exhaust, bigger intercooler, flashy bodykit, eye catching paint job, ear deafening sound system, bigger turbo/injectors, pod lifters, 19 inch chrome wheels, etc... but trackdays are so expensive? Hell, I don't think the 1/4 mile strip is more than a trackday now. :confused:  

If you think trackdays are expensive then isn't a speeding fine more expensive? Plus court fines, hiring a lawyer, etc...

the answer is simple dude:

1. the risk of putting your car into a wall or another car and writing it off with your insurance company not honouring the claim because it was on a race track is far to great for some.

2. the risk of blowing your engine and having to fork out a) the cost of a rebuild and B) the tow back from the race track home is too expensive...

some people can't afford a $7k rebuild (at best) in one hit. buying the modifications you just listed probably took 2 or 3 months for some people to save up for....

B-Man, the bannana R34 is go00ne.....sold it 6 weeks ago to Erik in WA. poor bugger. kekekekkeke.....j/k. he got it for a steal....

hahaha, im serious Bman! we all dont have high disposable incomes like you do :P and im a permy mate, not a contractor :)

did you see my above edit?? car's goneeeeee - i thought i had this R32 GTR secured http://www.j-spec.com.au/list/0156 but it fell through....bummer...

anyways, back to topic, just for the record i can't afford to do a trackday a month althought i'd very much like to! because:

a) its taxing on the car

B) i've gotta take time off work

c) the hidden costs must be considered

d) the risk of putting the car into a wall is risky (hence the reason why i like Wakefield)

e) if i blow my engine, i aint got $7k cash lying around to get it back on the road

hrmmmmkay!? :)

ps. check this video out if you havent already, shit like this can happen anytime on a race track :)

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/photopost.../cat/500/page/1

OMFG - that R32 is horn city. Sorry it fell through.

Dude , I went permy back in May - so in the same boat, contracting gave me my engine rebuild and that's about it.

Surely, you would have to agree that:

1) If you put your car into a wall on the street, you still have the risk that your insurance Co. won't cover you cause your car is not likely to be standard (ie Insurance null & void), or you were spotted being stupid (ie iF you are charged your insurance could become null and void). Even so - you are putting not only yourself but other pedestrians at risk. Silly stuff.

2) If you are worried about blowing your engine , it must have been modified in the first place (ie $$) so why not keep it stock and not worry about that sort of stuff - Majanal has done nearly 100,000 kms on his R33 - including more track & drift days that all of us put together and it still pulls like a $10 whore.

3) Taxing on the car - only of you let it - look after your car and it will be fine - or if you really want to speed fully hectic bro on the track - get a Suzuki swift GTI (5K ) for your track car and keep your Skyline for the street ( or vice versa)

4) Time off work - you get leave right - plus everyone pulls a few sickies - in addition, there are lots of trackdays on weekends

5) Hidden costs are the same as if you flog your car on the street

Sorry man - like I said, there is no argument for enjoying the track legally versus risking so much (including human life) by racing/speeding on the streets.

d) the risk of putting the car into a wall is risky (hence the reason why i like Wakefield)  

I'd be more worried about coming off than having some guy do the exact same thing right behind me....except right into my car.

wil..

p.s. pro trackday here :P

OMFG - that R32 is horn city. Sorry it fell through.

yeah was such a shame but oh well :P they are a dime a dozen im sure ;)

Dude , I went permy back in May - so in the same boat, contracting gave me my engine rebuild and that's about it.

hahahah, joining the plebs now hey :) now lets see if i can agree on some things with you :)

1) If you put your car into a wall on the street, you still have the risk that your insurance Co. won't cover you cause your car is not likely to be standard (ie Insurance null & void), or you were spotted being stupid (ie iF you are charged your insurance could become null and void). Even so - you are putting not only yourself but other pedestrians at risk. Silly stuff.

but when you don't declare your mods you are in full knowledge that you wont be covered, similarly to if you act negligently on the road - my point is, coming off at the track and hitting a wall is an unknown risk which some people aren't prepared to take knowing the consequences are that insurance claim wont be honoured if you were to smash your car.

don't get me wrong, i understand full well what everyone is trying to say about taking "enthusiastic" driving to a safer controlled environment like a track, but im also just trying to illustrate why some people would be hesitant in going...

2) If you are worried about blowing your engine , it must have been modified in the first place (ie $$) so why not keep it stock and not worry about that sort of stuff - Majanal has done nearly 100,000 kms on his R33  - including more track & drift days that all of us put together and it still pulls like a $10 whore.

duncan's r33 was a pretty stock r33 but hasn't that just gone through an engine rebuild? :)

3) Taxing on the car - only of you let it - look after your car and it will be fine - or if you really want to speed fully hectic bro on the track - get a Suzuki swift GTI (5K ) for your track car and keep your Skyline for the street ( or vice versa)

aren't you contradicting yourself here? :) i want to speed fully hectic bro on the track with my skyline (what was my skyline anyways) but i want it to be fine - why did you say i should get a cheap track car? i thought if you kept on top of servicing etc, things would be fine? are you saying trackwork is taxing on your car??? ;)

4) Time off work - you get leave right - plus everyone pulls a few sickies - in addition, there are lots of trackdays on weekends

im a corporate slave :)

5) Hidden costs are the same as if you flog your car on the street

i dont quite agree, but if you think a lap of wakefield or eastern creek has the same wear and tear factor as a 140km/hr squirt down homebush bay drive, i'll just have to agree to disagree :)

Sorry man - like I said, there is no argument for enjoying the track legally versus risking so much (including human life) by racing/speeding on the streets.

.........i agree whole heartedly!!!

my point is, not everyone can afford to goto the track. what they do on a public road is up to them.

Bush bashing and understeer -- always gonna happen at Wakefield :P

hahaha, in a wrx, yes :)

i really sorted out my suspension settings after that video....went to a softer swaybar setting and added 1.75 degrees neg camber to the front and it was just sublime....

the toyo trampios r1r's are also the best tyres i've ever had. id really like to test a set of azenis to see how they compare. after several trackdays the tyres got about 20,000km's out of them....awesome.

of course, all old Rb26s blow up as soon as you look at them....and I think mine lasted pretty damn well for the work it did.

Hey, if you can't afford to take a skyline to the track all the time, find a cheaper way to do it, buy an old club car, a $5k race only silvia etc etc. You'll get a hell of a lot more fun out of it than an occasional squirt down homebush bay drive followed by a 6 month suspension.

But I reckon Silver-Arrowz got it right, why would you spend money on intercooler, BOV, computer, suspension, exhaust, intake....and then complain you can't afford to take it on the track. What a crock. A stock skyline is quicker than 90% of other cars at the track

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RedX Says sorry dude you goooooooooneeeee do it out in middle of nowhere or cops will get5 you the more you risk other peoples lives the more the cops be there so do it out back of nowhere where if you stuff up only person you kill is you. Anyhow love your work keep it real six months is not long at all............

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