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Im not sure what u mean about mad places but there are alot of apprenticeships out there. Depends on what u want to do exactly. (motor mechanic, electrician, gyprocker(spelling)etc). Im an apprentice second year electrical mechanic and i like what im doing and get paid above award wages. Im not sure but havent alot of places just hired apprentices you know for this year :confused: . If u do look for one my advice is to apply for alot and then you can choose which one u want.

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Doesn't the Education Dept run programmes for people who aren't that interested in Skool. Sort of like at school but trying the working life out. It'd help you choose which way is best for you.

Some go on to get the job/apprenticeship they want and others return to school because working isn't as good as it appeared to em when stuck in the classroom.

Smart is good, Street smart is good but being ignorant/dumb will screw you up for life.

if i were you i would listen to what most of these people are saying. its the whole automotive trade, its built on treating people like dirt and paying them nothing. i was lucky i finnished school so im not stuck in it, as soon as i can im out of it for good

it just ruins a good hobby. try and prove me wrong if you like

Im 2 years out of my apprenticeship and my workshop wont even take an apprentice unless they have done yr12, and alot of places are like that nowdays. Id say alot of "MAD" places would have that rule. I think the 2 years in school will do you some good because i dont think you would last 2 seconds in a "MAD" place from the way you talk until you grow up a little.

could u be doin wat ur doin now if u had left early but?

if i had left it early i probably couldnt do half the stuff i can now and i wouldnt know as much either it would have taken a lot longer to learn these skills just doing it as a hobby. i admit this but i dont think that the skills make up for everything that the trade takes away. i probably shouldnt say dont do it im just warning you about what the trade can do to some people. if your iterested there are alot of books with everything your gonna need to know anyway if you decide to go ahead with the trade. read the books while your still in school and if your still hell bent on it, go for it. it is a good idea to give yourself as many options as possible and talk to more people in the trade and see how its going for them

hi autochik i am doing yr 12 now and most of my mates have to left to do a mechanic apprentiship or somthing to do with an apprentiship

every single one of them regrets leaving skool and hates the fact that they cant come back and now most of them can only go so far in one trade.

i put it to u that u stay in skool like i have and finish your vce, it is the best thing for you to do trust me,

fair enough you hate school but stay in there u only have 1 or 2 years left then u can do what you want

have a good one

bye

Im 2 years out of my apprenticeship and my workshop wont even take an apprentice unless they have done yr12, and alot of places are like that nowdays. Id say alot of "MAD" places would have that rule. I think the 2 years in school will do you some good because i dont think you would last 2 seconds in a "MAD" place from the way you talk until you grow up a little.

dont judge me by how i talk u dont know me, nice advice but no need for tha insult

stay in school wait until you get your p's then find somewhere that will actually employ you as an apprentice it will be hard, chicks generally get overlooked when it comes to male dominant trades but stick with it you will find some where that will employ you

i think people should do what they want... no point going to uni if you dont want to and no point getting into a trade if you dont want to ....

but becuase yoru still young good idea to stay in school (maybe tyr and get some experience on the side) and the get in2 it fulltime after school... least then you always got a fallback plan if you dont like it or you can get in2 it properly...

and 2 years is nothing in the scheme of things .. got the rest of you life to work

enjoy school n party on :D

if i were you i would listen to what most of these people are saying. its the whole automotive trade, its built on treating people like dirt and paying them nothing. i was lucky i finnished school so im not stuck in it, as soon as i can im out of it for good

it just ruins a good hobby. try and prove me wrong if you like

dunno where you have been working champ but my family have been in the automotive industrie for almost 30 years and none of us have been teated like dirt.

And have never been paid nothing once we were fully qualified tradesmen.

if you're good at wat you do and can excel above other tradesmen then you wil be rewarded for it but it won't happen over night.

we used to have one of the best classic car restoration businesses in sydney

and we were rewarded for the quality or work that the customers recieved they paid top dollar for it but it was never an issue because we put in the effort.

so its like anything if you good at something and you stick to it and go the extra mile you will earn good money and you will not be treated like dirt but it also takes time.

in the end you do wat will make you happy and stick with it if your enjoying it and what you put in you will get in return. job satisfaction is very important because your not gonna want to do something you hate every day for the rest of your life.

sorry for the long post got a bit carried away :Oops:

Autochik89,

My advice would be to stay in school until you cover a large amount of options for employment. Talk to as many people as you can about what they do, and do they like it and WHY. If you want to be a mechanic then go for it but remember, do any one thing for long enough and it'll drive you crazy. So, with that in mind, choose a career that has variety and if that's a mechanic job, you should be prepared to do whatever it takes to get beyond main stream work.

For the records I left school to become a mechanic and landed a job working on Ferrari's, Lambo's 's, Maserati's, Porsche's etc, etc. and loved it but even after time, these cars become boring because no matter what the car, it's still a bunch of nuts and bolts that YOU have to fix for someone else. There's a BIG difference between owning a great car and working on it.....and having to work on everybody elses great cars day after day. I have left the trade and hope I never have to go back. I still work on cars and enjoy it but NOT as a full time job. Hope that helps in some way & sorry it's so long.

I'm going to jump into the "stay in school" camp.

First off, your spelling and grammar is appalling :) (Yes, I realise this is an online forum, not a job application :)).

Seriously, though, I appreciate you may hate school -- a lot of people do -- but it is so important to have basic qualifications these days. Another two years may sound like an eternity to you, but what is 2 years out of a possible 40+ year career? I'm not saying you will, but its possible that in two, five, or 10 years time you will regret your decision and find that other possibilities are not open to you because you didn't finish school.

Always try to have as many options open to you as possibile: at least that way you will avoid being rail-roaded.

LW.

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