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Basically there are examples of people who were "slandered" by saying they were gay or whatever. Then sued for defamation got cash from newspaper, then came out of the closet... I should really have the examples to show, but I don't, my bad.

So even though what was said was true (though not anyone elses business) they were still able to successfully sue. But on checking around, it seems that states are different. Also that pool case is very clear cut so meh... I am an engineer, not a lawyer so I should shut up anyway

Nothing to see here... I officially shut up :)

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If what was said was indeed true, that is a valid defence against a defamation law suit.

If you have a right to say it, you have a legal defence. There are three main types of defence against a libel (published defamation) or slander (oral defamation):

* what you said was true;

* you had a duty to provide information;

* you were expressing an opinion.

For example:

* You can defend yourself on the grounds that what you said is true.

* If you have a duty to make a statement, you may be protected under the defence of "qualified privilege." For example, if you are a teacher and make a comment about a student to the student's parents -- for example, that the student has been naughty -- a defamation action can only succeed if they can prove you were malicious. You are not protected if you comment about the student in the media.

* If you are expressing an opinion, for example on a film or restaurant, then you may be protected by the defence of "comment" or "fair comment," if the facts in your statement were reasonably accurate.

* There is an extra defence if you are a parliamentarian and speak under parliamentary privilege, in which case your speech is protected by "absolute privilege," which is a complete defence in law. The same defence applies to anything you say in court.

The same basic defences apply throughout Australia, although the things you have to prove to apply them may differ. For example, in some Australian states, truth alone is an adequate defence. In other states, a statement has to be true and in the public interest -- if what you said was true but not considered by the court to be in the public interest, you can be successfully sued for defamation.

hence the point i was making about doridori32 having no idea, he cant sue anyone for defamation, well not in QLD, because it satisfies a defence to state that it was:

1)true and

2)in the publics best interest to know

obviously case by case its different and the interpretation of the law can differ but as a general statement i think its safe to say, that stating to be weary of dealing with doridori32 or mines_datsun etc, is ok.

hence the point i was making about doridori32 having no idea, he cant sue anyone for defamation, well not in QLD, because it satisfies a defence to state that it was:

1)true and  

2)in the publics best interest to know

obviously case by case its different and the interpretation of the law can differ but as a general statement i think its safe to say, that stating to be weary of dealing with doridori32 or mines_datsun etc, is ok.

Correct :)

Have a look at this thread, especially the link on the bottom of the first page to the OCAU page. Basically it restates what Merli and 33NIZ said. Interesting, though, that SAU might be held responsible for the user's comments. Whilst being legal it also most likely will be expensive and exhausting to defend.

[thread]61380[/thread]

PS. Merli, your knowledge of law and the picture collection together is really scaring me now :))

Why dont you go a post bad things about people who actually take money off people and not give refunds... i could name many people on this forum i have traded with and NEVER recieved ANYTHING

Mate, if this happened to you, wouldn't you think it's the right thing to let the forum know about who ripped you off? Even if you've moved on, that someone else wouldn't be ripped off by them in the future.

You can report them to a mod and have them added to the Bad Traders list. By not saying anything in support of your allegations, no-one's gonna take you seriously..aka "the boy who cried wolf"

Vijay

. Interesting, though, that SAU might be held responsible for the user's comments.

or possibly even liable for dodgy traders operating through this forum, and hence why all reasonable steps must be taken to prevent them from doing so. Although i don't really know the law there.

and dori.. bad luck, word spreads pretty quickly. Any forum basically has the right to prevent access to their forum to however they like, just as any establishment (restraunt, club, hotel, etc) has also. There is not much you can do about it.

Anyhow, if you can barely afford the postage charges on a fuel pump yourself, or have to argue the point about $10 postage, then I hardly think you have the successful funds to launch a legal case against anybody..

Anyhow, if you can barely afford the postage charges on a fuel pump yourself, or have to argue the point about $10 postage, then I hardly think you have the successful funds to launch a legal case against anybody..

:werd:

fair comment

i think doridori shouldnt be banned at this stage.............as long as there's a sticky warning about him on the for sale section and any move made by him to be deleted...........but the more posts he makes the better, it gives SAU a better idea of his writing style etc so it will be easier to pick up for the next alias he signs into. i'm willing to bet he's got another account right now.

at the very least it's good entertianment :)

hey guys...i haven't had the chance to check the threads as i didn't had internet for a week... ( bloody telstra ) anyway...im back online now...and just wanna share that I too..purchased the same product.

Any chance of a refund mr Damien ?

it was so obviously dodgey when there was no return address on the COD box he sent me... doridori32...a refund would be much appreciated.

nismo33 - This guy has been busy!!

do_the_busstop - how did you get that info? noticed that's ur second post on SAU.....how did u know about this dori-scammer?

Since your a bit slow on the uptake...

another forum member who must have access to these details has created a new account and posted the information for our benefit.

the user name do_the_bus-stop would be tied to when Mines_Datsun crashed his 33 GTR into a bus stop. :)

Since your a bit slow on the uptake...

another forum member who must have access to these details has created a new account and posted the information for our benefit.

the user name do_the_bus-stop would be tied to when Mines_Datsun crashed his 33 GTR into a bus stop. :)

:nowigetit

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