Couple of pics of my racing car

[JCMarshall_Law]

Edit 18/8/05, Project is still going along slowly, got shocks and springs sorted, Driveline is all in CAD ready to machine. Still negotiating with the current UQ SAE team to sell me the old engine - they dont need it now as they are using the CBR600 F4 which has different engine mounts. I have reattached the pics that got lost with the new version of SAU, See post 16.

Its not a skyline, but it will kick the ass of any skyline through a motorkana circuit.

Originally designed and built by myself and a few other guys in 2003 at the Uni of QLD for the Formula SAE competition. It was the highest placed car at the Australian comp overall, but more importantly we got first place in the Endurance race. I've bought it (from the team) without the engine and driveline. I'm currently in the process of rebuilding it as a motorkana / hillclimb special.

Currently I'm trying to locate an engine, I'm looking at a CBR900 honda motorbike engine (origionally had a CBR600) but I'm having trouble finding dimensions to work out if it will be worth modifying the chassis.

Anyone know the dimensions of the CBR900 (or even just the size differnce between the CBR900 and the CBR600)

Anyone have a CBR600 or 900 for sale?

The FSAE competition rules required a 20mm (80Hp) restrictor in the inlet. but it still kicked ass at only 200kg. below is the results of a 1/4 run at willobank in march 2004 (with the competition restrictor in place). I'll be rebuilding it without the restrictor - looking for about 130hp out of the CBR900 - should be lots of fun.

Reaction: 0.6

60ft: 1.93

330ft: 5.306

660ft: 8.207

1000ft: 10.75

ET: 13.00

MPH: 99.96

KPH: 160.86

BTW: it was not exactly designed as a drag car, the FSAE philosophy is pretty much the same as motorkana, build a small fast, manoeuvrable 4 wheel vehicle.

Here is a few more specs:

-1540mm Wheelbase

-1200mm front track, 1100mm rear track

-4130 Racetech 650 chassis

-Weight 200Kg

-CNC machined uprights from 6061 billet aluminium

-CNC machined hubs from 6061 aluminium

-unequal length A arm suspension at all four corners

-push rods at the rear, pull rods on front with modified coil over bike shocks.

- willwood calipers (2 at front, single at rear)

- Moulded carbon fibre bodywork and seat

- No rear diff, with modified VW driveline components (current)

Anyway, I thought I'd share that with everyone because I'm proud of it.

Pics are below.

Edited August 18, 2005 by JCMarshall_Law

[Keegs]

nice, I wanted to go into this sort of racing, not hillclimbs more track work like formula fords etc...but then I started a law degree and hence it takes all costs...its definately good fun.

[JCMarshall_Law]

Not sure why the other pics did not work here they are.

[japtaxi]

that is the schnitz! very cool, hope you will take it to places like mt cotton hill climb events and QR.

Revhead might have what you after..

[dangerous_daveo]

Haha! Thats rad! I gota say tho, you wouldnt want to have any sort of head on acco... But thats so cool hey!

[JCMarshall_Law]

you wouldnt want to have any sort of head on acco

It has Formula SAE spec roll bars and intrusion bars, but still, your right, sitting in it is like being straped into a metal cage, definatly not someting I'm planning on crashing.

[Silver'sR33]

...but then I started a law degree and hence it takes all costs...its definately good fun.

Cool, I never realised a law degree was so much fun!

[Mud]

It has Formula SAE spec roll bars and intrusion bars, but still, your right, sitting in it is like being straped into a metal cage, definatly not someting I'm planning on crashing.

You could do an "Alex Ziinardi" in that without even trying!

Ouch

[Slain]

I have 2 cbr600s, one 92 and one 01. in the 92 model there is really not a lot of difference in size, the 01 though is massive difference and a shitload smaller. 92 cbr 6 and 9 have different engine mount points and the 6 has a slightly thinner frame (ie smaller motor) but the difference really isnt that phenomanal.

[The Dan]

I heard somewhere that the CBR900 engine can fit underneath the CBR600 faring without mods. Not sure how true it is. I'll ask the boys at city yamaha today if I get a chance to get some dimensions. One of the guys there knows Hondas really well.

[JCMarshall_Law]

Cool, I never realised a law degree was so much fun!

I did mechanical engineering, the FSAE team was a UQ mech department project.

I have 2 cbr600s, one 92 and one 01. in the 92 model there is really not a lot of difference in size, the 01 though is massive difference and a shitload smaller. 92 cbr 6 and 9 have different engine mount points and the 6 has a slightly thinner frame (ie smaller motor) but the difference really isnt that phenomanal.

Just to clear that up, your saying the engines changed size (engine mount position and overall size) when they went to the F4 model in the CBR600? In that case if I'm going to use a CBR600 again it will need to be the F3 (the origional engine was a '98' F3 CBR600). But if your saying the CBR600 and 900 are close to the same size before the F4 model then if may be worth chasing up the CBR900 idea some more.

Want to sell me the engine out of the '92'? - HAHAHAHA:D. Thanks for that info.

I heard somewhere that the CBR900 engine can fit underneath the CBR600 faring without mods. Not sure how true it is. I'll ask the boys at city yamaha today if I get a chance to get some dimensions. One of the guys there knows Hondas really well.

That would be great, I might give them a call to see what they can tell me. I have had trouble getting anyone at businesses to spend the time to tell me or find me the dimensions of the CBR900 engine, not supprisingly, time is money. I have a detailed CAD (solid edge) model of the CBR600 F3, I need the same thing for the CBR900 or the CBR600 F4.

Cheers for the info.

[Slain]

Ok a F2/F3 frame will take a CBR900 engine but it requires a few tabs to be cut off the frame and also a few brackets need to be made.

The F2/F3 had similar sized engines, however, they used different engine mounts.

In the F4i series (01) the 600 is considerably smaller than a 919 (00) engine, my mate has a 919 and the size difference is very noticable.

By the way no chance of my F2 engine its my stunt bike!!!!

log on to www.motorcycledisposals.com.au as it is a good source for written off bikes. they have a 12000km f2 crashed for $3500 (remembering you can sell the leftovers)

[JCMarshall_Law]

If anyone is seroius about starting a team and want to become a fiancial member of this project then PM me.

The cost of the project is getting a bit excessive for just one person.

Maybe we could get something semi professional going if I think you are really into it. I would be willing to start a team as joint owners. You would have to live in or around Brisbane.

There is a thread about tax benifits of starting your own race team that may develop into something usefull.

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/sh...839#post1358839

[Roy]

I cant talk to you...i was involved with the UTS team the first year the comp ran in Aus. The competition has come light years since then though...shame UTS is still really struggling:(

[JCMarshall_Law]

LOL, I was wondering how long it would take to run into another FSAE team member on the forum. Yeah, the comp has come a really long way since it started. I went to 3 comps (2001, 2002, 2003) and I was a member of the UQ team in 2002 and 2003. The quality of the cars now is really supprising - Uni of QLD (my team) went from being a bunch of hicks from up north to being one of the best teams in the world in just 3 years. And now I've got the car!!!

I heard UTS got their act together last year?

I cant talk to you...i was involved with the UTS team the first year the comp ran in Aus. The competition has come light years since then though...shame UTS is still really struggling:(

[JCMarshall_Law]

Pics re-attached

Project is still going along slowly, got shocks and springs sorted, Driveline is all in CAD ready to machine. Still negotiating with the current UQ SAE team to sell me the old engine - they dont need it now as they are using the CBR600 F4 which has different engine mounts.

Stll looking for someone to join the team.

Edited August 18, 2005 by JCMarshall_Law

[85URK]

Pics re-attached

Project is still going along slowly, got shocks and springs sorted, Driveline is all in CAD ready to machine. Still negotiating with the current UQ SAE team to sell me the old engine - they dont need it now as they are using the CBR600 F4 which has different engine mounts.

Stll looking for someone to join the team.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

if oyur after an engine have you looked around for wrecked bikes or asked any bike shops and told them about your project, they should steer you in the write direction. looks tough! cant wait too see your progrees with it when its up and running.

[MountainRunner]

Looks very cool. Would love to see it one day.

[JCMarshall_Law]

if oyur after an engine have you looked around for wrecked bikes or asked any bike shops and told them about your project, they should steer you in the write direction. looks tough! cant wait too see your progrees with it when its up and running.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Finding an engine is not really a problem just paying for it. For some reason wreckers can charge $2000 for an engine when the same bike in working order would have gone for less than $4000. The old engine the uni owns is missing the inlet manifold and exhaust, so I am barganing with them as it's worth dick all to a wrecker without the manifolds.

I could make my own manifolds - as I did when I was in the team but I'm trying to get away as cheaply as possible.

I'm in no rush at all. I anticipate that this is a very long term project unless I find a genuine financial team member.

[85URK]

no worries then. good lluck with finding/getting all the parts, and getting financial members to help you with your endeavour. still a good little project.