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I think the only reason they would release a new model is becaause they are 100% sure that it improves on ALL aspects of the previous model.

It would make absolutely no sense for Nissan to release a car that doesn't sell because people already have better vehicles. Take a look at Mercedes or BMW, they all boast improved cars each time they do a launch.

The 34GTT is valued around the mid 20K to the high 40K mark *based on min and max figures* so shop around and you'll find something decent,

There would be more 34s if people started importing more of them... problem is that most dealers are under the impression that they are still "too expensive" for the stereotype customer.

I guess the times are changing and $30k is not much money these days.

Saying that, mine cost $28K and it was in absolutely fabulous condition.

nobody wants to spend $30k on a 2nd hand car anymore, thats the reason why they aren't popular.

I reckon it's because you can buy a very upgraded R32GTR for that much. Even standard'ish R33GTR's are not much more than a standard'ish R34GTT. That's the REAL problem.

:P cheers :P

nobody wants to spend $30k on a 2nd hand car anymore, thats the reason why they aren't popular.

you would be surprised at how many people spend 30k on used car

34`s will be more available this and next year as cars become 7 years old and bit higher k`s etc.

the only PRICE problem i`m having atm is the difference between auto and manual..my estimates are about 5-6k extra landed for the manual

i have this one coming in next month ,pipe ,alloys,sus ,60k manual.approx $33k complied by me..auto would be no more than 27k same car..higher k`s auto around 22-24k

looking forward to working with newer cars 98-2002 ..expect a lot less "issues" than the 32`s i have been working with

expect to see alot of 34`s over the next few years as 32 and 33 owners..MOVE ON... :P

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well i know that lots of people *do* spend $30k+ on a 2nd hand car... but in general a lot of people seem to be going for the security of a brand new car (e.g. many of my friends have spent low $30k on brand new cars instead of an older car, as they don't care its not fast, just that its new and with a factory warranty)

its just that these days, new cars are selling more and more (last year was biggest ever new car sales), and the 2nd hand market is slower than it was.

R34 are a good deal for what you get, but high 20's is a different bracket. Don't forget most unsecured personal loans top out at $20k.. Anything more than that involves a car loan and the condition for most of these is that the car must be newer than 5 years old. I guess a GT-T qualifies for that.

15 year car vs one less than 5 years old, you'd definitely hope less issues :P

It has been said before but whilst it is cheaper to import the car yourself,I know that the idea of paying for a car which you cannot see and the actual importation process can be a turn off for many buyers.

Also, I think it'll take a car enthusiast or rather, a skyline enthusiast to fork out $30-$35k for a r34 (average price for one which has been landed/compiled and sold privately or through dealer). Most models ive seen on sale at this price are 98 and 99 and whilst they are still in great condition to us, the fact that it is fast approaching 6-7 years old may not be so appealing to an everyday buyer who wants a car to get from A -> B

Alot of the younger buyers wants a r34 but they simply cant have one because they cannot afford (buying/maintaining) the car

Ii think that the new p plater restrictions will also affect the number of r34's on the road

This leaves the more mature crowd where speed is not number 1 on their agenda.. As such, they usually turn to newer cars due to warranty and lower maintanence costs.

I dont think we've reached the stage where there are too many r34's in Australia yet. I can go through a week and see maybe just 1 or 2. Maybe in a few more years, we will see as many r34s as r33s thus causing the price to decrease even more.

R34 are a good deal for what you get, but high 20's is a different bracket. Don't forget most unsecured personal loans top out at $20k.. Anything more than that involves a car loan and the condition for most of these is that the car must be newer than 5 years old. I guess a GT-T qualifies for that.

15 year car vs one less than 5 years old, you'd definitely hope less issues ;)

Point 1: There are many banks that offer personal loans over $20K, you just need to have the right credentials and come across as someone who the bank can take a risk on. My 34 was purchased with a full personal loan, no security on the car. All that was required was proof of income. Sure it's like 1-2% more interest p.a. but if you read the terms and conditions between both personal and car loans - the benefits soon become very obvious.

Point 2: I can name at least half a dozen brand new cars that have been recalled over and over again!

Also, I think it'll take a car enthusiast or rather, a skyline enthusiast to fork out $30-$35k for a r34 (average price for one which has been landed/compiled and sold privately or through dealer).

Alot of the younger buyers wants a r34 but they simply cant have one because they cannot afford (buying/maintaining) the car.

Agreed Eric;! Most kids out there want the bling and the fast cars but when it comes down to handing over the plastic notes, they just can't! And you're right, maintenance and running costs soon start to add up very quickly! Saying that, even if you had the money, it all depends on what car you really want in the end.

Would you spend $1million on an Enzo? Even if you had the money?

does look like its changed a little satanic.. I remember back only about 2-3 years ago it was very hard to get a personal loan for higher amounts.. even *with* a $50k job and previous loan payback history. Many people I know were refused as they wanted to a buy a GTR and such.. and their only option was smaller finance companies with sometimes higher interest rates to counter the risk.

Now I look and most of the major banks have a more liberal policy and $30k is common.. so i take that back ;)

HSBC is where I got my personal loan from for the 34... they are one bank that are very very carefree with their loans. The bigger options there allowed you to borrow up to $70K through a personal loan.

Now I managed to get the full price of the car out of them with no loan payment history, no credit ratings with any other institutions for a period over 5 years, and I was 19! The only thing going for me was the job. Now tell me times have changed!

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