Modding My Standard R33. I Want Valuable Knowledge

[R33_Series2Lover]

hey all ive got a stock standard R33 nissan skyline series 2.I really want to do up my car but not crazy and I dont want to stuff my car up. I want some simple mods. Just a couple of questions.

I want a Exhaust,FMIC and BOV.

Can I add these items without the car running rich or the car ending up running like crap?? I know the car runs rich on the standard ecu.

Do I need to have a dyno tune if I add these items? I had a GFB hybrid BOV had to take it off cause the car kept stalling. Is there a BOV I can use so the car doesnt stall or idle funny. Ive heard people modding there cars and the car having probs I dont want this prob thats why im asking you guys as you know so much more than me.

If you guys have modding ideas tell me id love any imput.

[SDEWY5]

the reason youre car was stalling was because you didnt plug the hose running back to your airbox, this means that instead of sucking through the typical opening in the airbox it bypasses the airflow meter by sucking through this hose, this means the ngine thinks it is getting less air than it really is, to solve that plug the hole. If you have and its still doing this, means your BOV is a POS and is leaking heaps of air.

If im leaving anything out guys lemme know.

Installing a front mount and exhaust wont change how your car runs at all..

[paulr33]

hey all ive got a stock standard R33 nissan skyline series 2.I really want to do up my car but not crazy and I dont want to stuff my car up. I want some simple mods. Just a couple of questions.

I want a Exhaust,FMIC and BOV.

Can I add these items without the car running rich or  the car ending up running like crap?? I know the car runs rich on the standard ecu.

Do I need to have a dyno tune if I add these items? I had a GFB hybrid BOV had to take it off cause the car kept stalling. Is there a BOV I can use so the car doesnt stall or idle funny. Ive heard people modding there cars and the car having probs I dont want this prob thats why im asking you guys as you know so much more than me.

If you guys have modding ideas tell me id love any imput.

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greetings, did you try a search? ours forums search has been fixed in the last few days so you should have found stacks of results. anyhow.

1) change exhaust is ok and gives good result. try and change dump and front pipe also. 3" split is perfect and highflow cat will give great increase and respsone. batmbl on the forums can sell u a split dump to suit stock turbo and cat

2) ugprade fmic is good for temperature drop. second hand gtr cooler should be fine, no need for a jap brand. hybrid or hybrid hackup brand should be fine also. the $1200 on a hks kit probably isnt justified. if you fit the cooler, do some other mods at the same time, that way you wont notice the extra "throttle lag" the bigger core will give you

3) stick with the stock bov its fine. if you want the noise fit a pod with a cold air intake. the stock bov is very loud in this case and theres no need nor benefit from an aftermarket bov

you can't tune the stock ecu other than put it on the dyno and change the timing like you would in a normal car. if your power sucks or the car is running crappy you should look at

1) ecu reset

2) check plugs (crappy running)

3) check 02 sensor (bad fuel economy)

on full throttle the car will run rich regardless, its designed to do so. you can however make it lean out on cruise and low throttle by making sure you have a good working oxygen sensor (o2 sensor). these die after 50,000 odd and are soely responsible for fuel economy. an apexi safc can lean out your car on full throttle to get some more power and save some fuel also. its a piggyback system. dont run more than 12psi on the stock turbo (or even 10psi) any more just adds more heat and will make it go bang.

that should be plenty of info to keep you busy for a while

[Sambo33]

3" exhaust & FMIC are valuable mods. if it was me i wouldnt worry about the BOV, the stock pulmb-back one works fine & doesnt attract unwanted attention. buy an apex power fc & get all your tuning sorted out, and you should have a very quick car.

[R33_Series2Lover]

Wow talk about a quick response. Someone I know told me to come to this website and ask he wasnt kidding when he said it was a good site. Ok so someone mentioned throttle lag when putting on a larger FMIC. What mods should I do to stop this? Does the power fc fix this because for the price $1200 is it even needed? Also the pod filter with cold air intake, ive heard installing a pod could cause the engine to suck in more hot air than cold. Im seriously going to do this cause i want the noise but any suggestions on the best cold air intake to get K&N,Blitz etc???Thanks for the advice so far its been great.

[WazR32GTSt]

well paul pretty much put you in the right direction there...

i would also start with a full service before modding the car, especially if you have recently bought it

As for the induction side of things, i wouldn't worry about a pod filter. they just attract cops. there is plenty of evidence that putting a k&n panel filter into the stock airbox is just as free-flowing as a pod, and keeps the hot air of the engine bay out. i have this setup and i can hear heaps of sucking noise...

there's nothing you can really do to remove any throttle lag that you might get from a FMIC. that's just what happens. If you fit the 3" exhaust and FMIC you won't even notice the lag there will be just so much more power for you

once you have the exhaust and FMIC fitted, i would then get a bleed valve to up the boost to about 10-11psi. that should be safe with the FMIC and your setup. Take it to a dyno and pay for an hour's time (about 110). they can changethe boost for you, alter the timing, make sure the car is running fine and SAFE and you will walk away a very happy man

so, summing up i would go:

- full service: oil, plugs, trans, fuel filter (maybe $100)

- K&N panel air filter ($100)

- custom-made 3" exhaust turbo back ($1200)

- FMIC and piping ($600)

- bleed valve ($50)

- time on the dyno ($110)

total: just over $2k for a great increase of about 50kW or so...

happy moddding

Warren.

[WazR32GTSt]

Universal intercoolers: $175

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/in...showtopic=82006

Piping kit: $400

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/in...showtopic=82827

Dump pipes:

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/in...showtopic=82934

High-flow cats:

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/in...showtopic=15558

Boost controller:

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/in...showtopic=75038

now, you owe me a beer!

[R33_Series2Lover]

Yeh i'll get a full service done before hand. Ive had the car for a year now, It was quick when I got it but i think ive gotten use to the power. Im still very happy with the way it is now but i like the look of the exhaust,FMIC and the turbo sound the engine makes when on boost. So a K&N panel filter are better than pods i read the exact same thing in hot4's. Gives out a sucking sound? Is it anyway close to the sound of a pod or blow off valve? I hate the loud psst sound but a nice subtle sound similar is what would be nice. Im not so sure about the bleed valve though and increasing boost because boost would already be increased by the exhaust anyways wouldn't it. Then I need to look at engine management like power fc and also a fuel cut defender. Gets too messy i want something simple. Yeh a dyno tune would be a must.

Ok so far on my shopping list is

- Turbo back exhaust

-FMIC (Im going to get a Hybrid R33 kit)

- K&N panel filter.

- 1 hour dyno tune

So from what I gathered this would give me the look and sound im after right?

Oh and quickly on a cold start is it normal for the car to begin revving at 1,000rpm for like a couple of seconds then rise quick to like 1,500 then after a good warm up returning to the normal idle range? Smoke comes out of the exhaust when warming up but is good once warm is this normal also.

Sorry for the tonnes of questions.

[The Mafia]

ahhh shit, what colour smoke is it?

That doesn't sound good at all. you might want to get a leakdown and compression test. (about $70)

But if you want a car that sounds awesome, and goes well.

Here's my setup.

FMIC

Power FC and full tune

Full Exhaust, split dump, high flow cat

Stainless Turbo to AFM duct

Boost at 12psi Via $30 bleed valve (fine for stock turbo, but not for standard ecu)

if you want awesome sound, and you want to hear the stock blowoff valve, do this -

[MsG_ChRiS]

Hey R33_Series2Lover,

As the guys have suggested free up your intake and zorst.

If you get a pod buy a sheild from Linton at garage debris (<--- do a search on this) and then pipe something from the front bar to the box so you get enough cold air into your motor (this is easy if you have hybrid style piping cause you wil have a hole to plumb the pipe through where the old intercooler piping was ).

That sorted buy the 3" split dump off Batmbl in the link above and if you can the new catco cat. (Later on invest in a cat back.)

If you can it is also a good idea to beef up your fuel and cooling systems i.e. intercooler, fuel pump and radiator etc (but not a nessesity if your only doing very mild modifications). This all adds to reliability.

The PFC will increase drivability and power provided its tuned properly (add $400~800 for this) but once you throw a PFC at a skyline it realy unleashes a monster.

New O2 sensor, vacuum lines, hoses, fan belts, oil catch cans, new plugs etc and a bit of time will ensure you reliability also.

A few words of advice however for when you begin to modify you ride!!!

1. Once you start you cant stop. It becomes so addictive you'll start having dreams about your next mod

2. Shop around when buyin parts and do your research on the prduct before jumping into something.

Im realy starting to ramble on now arent i well better stop i spose neway good luck modifying your ride.

[R33_Series2Lover]

Cool yeh im going to research i did the mistake once of putting a BOV and the car stalled and I had all sorts of probs. Yeh and with the smoke its a Whitey/dark kind of smoke but only during warm ups. I called the mechanic now and said its probs condensation or just buring extra fuel when warming car up. He told me though if the smoke is blue then start looking for a new engine. never knew smoke could go blue. I had my cars ecu plugged into a console and car isnt running very rich so thats cool.

[WazR32GTSt]

a boost increase in the order of 1-2psi will be noticable and you won't have to worry about fuel cut, ECU etc.

as for the smoke out the exhust, is it just condensation? that's normal. if its actually smoke then get it checked out by a mechanic...

my friend had a TX5turbo with a pod on it and he was shattered when the sucking sound still wasn't as loud as my K&N filter in the stock airbox. just make sure you take out the padding etc. that's in the airbox that is designed to dampen down the sound...

Warren.

[R33_Series2Lover]

How could you tell if its just condensation??

[R33_Series2Lover]

now u got me all worried. I didnt even think about it because it was only during warm up after that its cool. I did tell the guy about the smoke and he said it was because my throttle positioning switch was tampered with. But when I warm up the car some smoke comes out not as much as before butnot to sure if it is infact condensation

[R33_Series2Lover]

oh and i had to throttle thing fixed aswell. so yeh.

[R33_Series2Lover]

oh and i had to throttle thing fixed aswell. so yeh.

[MsG_ChRiS]

lol at R33_Series2Lovers spam hehe

i got a bit worried about my car to blowing smoke turned out the it was just the hot air hitting the cold in the morning!!!

but better to get it checked out than not get it checked out

[R33_Series2Lover]

Yeh true. I did get it checked out plugged my engine to come kind of machine and said it was cause someone tampered with my throttle switch. But it still blows smoke when warming up then stops once car is warm and at idle. He told me car wasnt running rich so cant be that. Damn cars so complicated.

[WazR32GTSt]

mate, don't stress too much

if its just condensation then this not actually smoke. stand behind the car. it it comes out and stays thick its smoke. if its comes out and blends in with the air quickly then its ust condensation. of course condensation goes away when the car warms up and is completely normal...

i really wouldn't worry about the 'smoke' unless the car is having problems

Warren

PS those links i put up, the intercooler and piping fron Just Jap is BLOODY CHEAP and they are a reputable company. i wouldn't give that a miss if i were you

[R33_Series2Lover]

Cool well back to modifying. Thats for your all your help. Have a top weekend and go kick ford/commodore arse.