T04z On A 34gt-t

[SLY33]

I've seen over 300rwkw from a stock bottom end R33 with GT-RS and cams.  There is a thread on it somewhere here.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

can anyone link to this thread? i cant find it via search. OVER 300rwkw from a GTRS is a very big ask, i will believe it only when i see the dyno graph! Thats over 500hp at the engine from a 400ps rated turbo. even with a conservative rating thats still a big ask!

[Binky1970]

man that civic made some noise. I was down there with the guy with the sivler civic and the guys from Bel Garage.

my car is currently running 12.5psi on the high setting and every now and then I run 10.2psi.

[blk180]

I belive this 300rwkw R33 was the one in fast fours couple of months back think it made 307rwkws for a GTRS with stock buttom end was a BD4s tuned car

[shonen]

Not having a go at you blk180 but I wouldnt beleive it for a sec if it was from Fast Fours....

[Binky1970]

It propably would have more likely been Zoom or HPI.

[Abo Bob]

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/in...topic=87886&hl=

[blk180]

http://image-cache.skylinesaustralia.com/f...-1126786146.jpg

well i quess you have your dyno reasults and it was in fast fours as i said But with people on the forum only making 360-390rwkws with two on a gtr

Edited December 7, 2005 by blk180

[Abo Bob]

GTR's use a different kind of GT-RS as there are two types.

[Binky1970]

So if I go to the GT-RS (more than likely) what should be considered while the turbo is being done ??

GT-RS turbo

Dump pipe (HKS Extension pipe)

Tomei Poncams (264s?)

Fuel Pump

Injectors (Blitz seem to be the only direct fits i can find)

Headgasket (Tomei 1.6/1.8mm)

Oil Cooler

Splitfire Coils

adjustable cam gears ?

Z32 afm ?

can't seem to think of anything else.

Edited December 8, 2005 by Binky1970

[shonen]

port and polish the head while its off....

and for a GTRS nismo 480cc injectors will do just fine....and they are direct bolt ons.

Nomuken in his D1 ER34 uses nismo 480cc and he uses a Blitz K5-660R which is said to be similar to a T04R.

[Downforce]

nope the 33 greddy plenum doesnt fit the neo......you either need an adapter plate which is almost impossible to get a hold of or drill new threads in the cylinder head to make the 33 one fit. The second option is not one I would like to take....so im still searching for that elusive adapter plate.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Correct on the Greddy plenum... I also investigated this and found the same information. The stock plenum works fine though up to about 600hp, it just doesn't look as cool as the greddy plenum :lol:

hahha your car will be right if you just run 0.6 bar of boost ie stock boost. I have been to wakie many times with my car and have never had a problem. But I have heard of reports of 34s running stock turbo and running 0.8 bar or more and blowing up their turbos.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

lol then i must have some kind of freak turbo because mine sees 0.9 Bar every time i drive it, and it's been fine at that boost level for over 18months, with a few track days too B) New HKS GT series turbo coming soon though

[discopotato03]

O/T guys but you could rate the GT-RS (esentially badge engineered Garrett GT2871R 52T with T3 flange and Skyline specific dump pattern) as ~ 420Hp compressor and 330 Hp turbine side . That exhaust housing is only .64ARR so 300Kw of exhaust flow ?

That GCG Hi Flow would be very cost effective particularly as you already have the R34 Neo type exhaust housing , one out one in and no orphan bits needed . Will look dead stock and is rebuildable . How easy is that .

Cheers A .

Edited December 8, 2005 by discopotato03

[shonen]

Correct on the Greddy plenum... I also investigated this and found the same information. The stock plenum works fine though up to about 600hp, it just doesn't look as cool as the greddy plenum :lol:

lol then i must have some kind of freak turbo because mine sees 0.9 Bar every time i drive it, and it's been fine at that boost level for over 18months, with a few track days too B) New HKS GT series turbo coming soon though

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

you going for an internal gate or an external ?

I think the Plazmaman one might fit the 34s.....as it uses the standard runners.

Just need to find out of the runners are the same on 34s are they are for 33s.

[R31Nismoid]

You'll need to find out if its chrome coated too... after all A/M plenums are more cosmetic than performance based unless your making something over what a stock motor is going to handle

480cc will be pushing it @ 300rwkw.

Get the Nismo 550. Bolt it and gives you the required head room

[T04GTR]

stock boost on a 34gtt is 0.8-0.9 bar. provided it isnt pinging

[shonen]

stock boost on a 34gtt is 0.8-0.9 bar. provided it isnt pinging

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I was lead to beleive its 0.6 or 0.7 ?

I turn it up to 0.9 when I feel like giving it a hit...

R31Nismoid: AFAIK nismo dont have 550cc for 34s.

I think next step up will be 740cc which is a little bit overkill.

[R31Nismoid]

They run .9bar stock now do they?

[Abo Bob]

Stock boost is 0.5 bar.

I have also never heard of 550cc Nismo injectors for the R34.

Not that I've done the calculations but I think 480's might be a bit small for 300rwkw too.

Are you sure you've got the right GT-RS there discopotato? That doesn't seem right based on what we are seeing on the dynos.

[Sydneykid]

O/T guys but you could rate the GT-RS (esentially badge engineered Garrett GT2871R 52T with T3 flange and Skyline specific dump pattern) as ~ 420Hp compressor and 330 Hp turbine side . That exhaust housing is only .64ARR so 300Kw of exhaust flow ?

That GCG Hi Flow would be very cost effective particularly as you already have the R34 Neo type exhaust housing , one out one in and no orphan bits needed . Will look dead stock and is rebuildable . How easy is that .

Cheers  A .

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I thought the 0.64 turbine was the GTR one and the GTST was 0.8'ish.

Based on what I have seen HKS compressors seem capable of around 10% more than their rated capacity. So my feeling would be that the 420 bhp tops out around 460 bhp. That's 285 rwkw (using the usual 2wd Skylines losses of ~60 kw). It wouldn't take much of a "happy" dyno to read 300 rwkw.

cheers

[chops]

I thought the 0.64 turbine was the GTR one and the GTST was 0.8'ish.

Based on what I have seen HKS compressors seem capable of around 10% more than their rated capacity.  So my feeling would be that the 420 bhp tops out around 460 bhp.  That's 285 rwkw (using the usual 2wd Skylines losses of ~60 kw).  It wouldn't take much of a "happy" dyno to read 300 rwkw.

cheers

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Especially as the 300rwkw was on a dynojet dyno.

In "Ls1-land" we find the dynojet figures to be generally around 10-15% higher than dyno dynamics figures for the same mods.