KiwiRS4T Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 What are you using the car for - street, circuit, drag, drifting? Is it going to be experiencing long periods of WOT? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/110680-oil-control-in-rbs-for-circuit-drag-or-drift/page/47/#findComment-6736535 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skylinestx Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 What are you using the car for - street, circuit, drag, drifting? Is it going to be experiencing long periods of WOT? hi mate, i would say a bit of all..but mainly fast road..just concerned about the stock 1.2mm restrictors. do you think i should block the middle one and leave the vvt and rear 1.2mm or drill them out to 1.5mm? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/110680-oil-control-in-rbs-for-circuit-drag-or-drift/page/47/#findComment-6736541 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickr33couple Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 100% leave the vct, if you have 1.2mm in the rear already then I would put another 1.2mm in the middle, or block the middle and make the rear 1.5mm I've got nitto pump with Vct untouched, middle blocked, 1.5mm rear But think I should of went 1.2mm middle and rear Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/110680-oil-control-in-rbs-for-circuit-drag-or-drift/page/47/#findComment-6736542 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickr33couple Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 I wanna know why you have 1.2mm stock? Thought they wee 2mm standard in non neo? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/110680-oil-control-in-rbs-for-circuit-drag-or-drift/page/47/#findComment-6736543 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skylinestx Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 a few people have 1.2mm stock res's Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/110680-oil-control-in-rbs-for-circuit-drag-or-drift/page/47/#findComment-6736690 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skylinestx Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 so do you think I should just block the middle? or leave them as 1.2? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/110680-oil-control-in-rbs-for-circuit-drag-or-drift/page/47/#findComment-6737583 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skylinestx Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Im still a little unsure what would be the best...either to leave them all at 1.2mm or block the middle and drill the resar to 1.5mm.. Anyone left the at 1.2mm? Cheers for any info Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/110680-oil-control-in-rbs-for-circuit-drag-or-drift/page/47/#findComment-6739972 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LANDSCRIBBLE Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Im still a little unsure what would be the best...either to leave them all at 1.2mm or block the middle and drill the resar to 1.5mm.. Anyone left the at 1.2mm? Cheers for any info I've had front and rear with 1.2mm restrictors for some months now and no issues to report. Standard RB25DET oil pump. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/110680-oil-control-in-rbs-for-circuit-drag-or-drift/page/47/#findComment-6739993 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skylinestx Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 I've had front and rear with 1.2mm restrictors for some months now and no issues to report. Standard RB25DET oil pump. Hi thanks for the reply..im not sure if the n1 pump will a bit too much and accumilate in the head..do they flow a lot more than standard? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/110680-oil-control-in-rbs-for-circuit-drag-or-drift/page/47/#findComment-6739998 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LANDSCRIBBLE Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 From what i've been told and researched, N1 pumps flow a little more than standard and with a bit more oil pressure. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/110680-oil-control-in-rbs-for-circuit-drag-or-drift/page/47/#findComment-6740004 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skylinestx Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 I've had front and rear with 1.2mm restrictors for some months now and no issues to report. Standard RB25DET oil pump. Plus some engines are 1.2mm standard... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/110680-oil-control-in-rbs-for-circuit-drag-or-drift/page/47/#findComment-6740025 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitto Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 NEOs have an N1 pump standard with 2x 1.25mm restrictors factory. Youll be fine with 2x 1.2mm restrictors. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/110680-oil-control-in-rbs-for-circuit-drag-or-drift/page/47/#findComment-6740050 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skylinestx Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 NEOs have an N1 pump standard with 2x 1.25mm restrictors factory. Youll be fine with 2x 1.2mm restrictors. Thanks bud... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/110680-oil-control-in-rbs-for-circuit-drag-or-drift/page/47/#findComment-6740089 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian P Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 (edited) i started reading about the RB a few years back when considered buying a GT-R which i now have and is currently being stripped. been reading up on oil system a lot lately but never having worked on a car other than changing tires this thread is a lot to take in when it comes to the technical side of things. I understand the RB26 has some oil issues in the standard form when upping the power level and oil starvation is pretty scary to say the least. how would a leathal person with limited knowldge and money best tacke the oil issue? i plan on removing the engine this weekand, so this is pretty much the reason for me reading up on these things as of late. to be honest i came to page 31 and then skipped to the end due to technical understanding of things. Ofcourse its inevitable that the engine will one day need a rebuild, question is how one can be as proactive as possible, most of you would seem to know a great deal and track your cars a lot compared to the normal skyline owner where I only intend on using my car for 3-4 track days per year and some spirited mountains runs (due to insurance my limit will be 5,000km per year) what would my best investment be on the oil-side?, will be running 450-500bhp on a pair of GT-SS (to be installed), currently have a N1 oil pump, completely new top with ACL race bearings, tomei 260 9.15 cams and cam gears that all was installed a year back after last owner blow the ceramic turbos. not having any direct mechanical experience (shell restoration is bit of a learning curve already) i would be happy to leave the block and top alone and away from drills. Also been reading a lot of negative feedback about the N1 pump over at gtr.co.uk but over here it seems be a known issue of early crankshaft (barely know what that is), is this something i need to be worried about on a R34? so, what angle is the best to take on this? Extended sump/pan? tomei baffle plate? oil cooler? (overkill if i go extended sump?) other more important things i might need to consider first? Christian Edited February 7, 2013 by Christian P Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/110680-oil-control-in-rbs-for-circuit-drag-or-drift/page/47/#findComment-6741821 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiwiRS4T Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 R34 crank is fine. Extended sump + baffles good idea. If you do the above you can hold the oil cooler and see if it becomes necessary - easy to fit later. N1 pump - suggest a set of Reimax gears with carefull assembly (recent local failure - haven't got to the bottom of it yet). If you are reboring the block and it will be thoroughly cleaned drill out and relieve the oil returns. Maybe get some feedback from other RB26 owners re oil restrictors. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/110680-oil-control-in-rbs-for-circuit-drag-or-drift/page/47/#findComment-6742686 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickr33couple Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 Here is food for thought, This is with a nitto pump so it's just a guideline for you as the nitto pumps alot more then n1 I know a guy with a rb26 with nitto pump, had 1.5m restritor in, high octance larger sump, rear head drain, and he was filling up the catch can... Ended up pulling head off and changing to 1.1m restritor problem solved, Been rb26 it's solid lifters so you won't have drama with hyd like rb25 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/110680-oil-control-in-rbs-for-circuit-drag-or-drift/page/47/#findComment-6742845 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shazz Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 (edited) I've got a built rb26. I'm running a nitto pump 1mm restrictor in the block, sump baffles. Hi octane 3 stage cam cover baffle. Remote oil filter and 13 row cooler Cam covers have two -10 lines run to the top of a catch can. The bottom of the catch can has two -10 lines which return to the sump. It vents to atmosphere and and it pumps a bit of oily vapor out the breathers. I believe it's coming from the sump. I can't put a non return valve in as it will stop the catch can equalizing the pressure from the sump.......any suggestions? Edited February 11, 2013 by Shazz Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/110680-oil-control-in-rbs-for-circuit-drag-or-drift/page/47/#findComment-6746676 Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty nm35 Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 Depending on the height of the catch can, as it needs to be lower, can you shove some stainless steel wool up the breather pipe and plumb it back into the intake? Most of the venting breather setups I have seen make a mess of the engine bay with oil vapour. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/110680-oil-control-in-rbs-for-circuit-drag-or-drift/page/47/#findComment-6746765 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nee-san Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Are you saying your catch can is vented to the atmosphere ? Why do you want equalised pressure from the sump ? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/110680-oil-control-in-rbs-for-circuit-drag-or-drift/page/47/#findComment-6747594 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiwiRS4T Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 I've got a built rb26. I'm running a nitto pump 1mm restrictor in the block, sump baffles. Hi octane 3 stage cam cover baffle. Remote oil filter and 13 row cooler Cam covers have two -10 lines run to the top of a catch can. The bottom of the catch can has two -10 lines which return to the sump. It vents to atmosphere and and it pumps a bit of oily vapor out the breathers. I believe it's coming from the sump. I can't put a non return valve in as it will stop the catch can equalizing the pressure from the sump.......any suggestions? What do you mean by equalising pressure from the sump? I have two lines coming from the sump into a catch can to relieve the pressure in the sump and as Scotty says I get oil vapour coming out the breather so I have got a second, baffled catch can (or a proper oil/air seperator would be good) to take a line from where the breather was on the primary catch can and I will plumb the second one into my intake. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/110680-oil-control-in-rbs-for-circuit-drag-or-drift/page/47/#findComment-6747619 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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