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Grudge match racing, hey thats gona work for all sides and provide some 'good' PR. You might even end up with a tribal sort of rivalry amongst the supporters of each tuning house (kinda like the holden and ford thing).

I believe this sort of tuning house competition is common in japan and would provide a bit of entertainment for the punters.

We could have a points system for the year and have a big industry party and award presentation at the end of the competition year. This sort of thing would be good for the profile of businesses involved in jap-performance tuning.

Rev210 thats the best idea ive heard in ages for all the tuners who read this post DEFINATELY TAKE IT INTO CONSIDERATION it would be good publicity for your buisness..

With the whole engine saga it shouldnt really be an issue because they claimed responibility and fixed the problem at no charge. which i think is a very good quality for a buisness to have i no of companys to do the same and not take responsibility for there actions so to the little bitch whos spreading shit shut the **** up.

Hi Guys n Gals,

Firstly i think that we should be encouraging as many tuners etc on here as possible. The people that work on the cars day in and day out are the ones that we can most learn and benefit from - especially a chick like me thats trying to learn all she can :)

Secondly, I think debate should be encouraged but without resorting to slandering or insults. I dont think a difference in opinion should be shutdown - as we are not all going to agree on the same things - personally i like to hear both sides of the fence. These guys are in comptition with each other - as with any type of business you will nit pick the comptitions weak spots to benefit your business - its how everyone advertises its understandable - but obviously should be left out of these forums because of the trouble it causes.

From a girls point of view i partly have to agree with Angel - when choosing a tuner - second most important thing after the job the quality of work they do on the car is customer service - things go wrong understand that completely- its how that is handled is importan. Also the time taken to explain to dumbshits like me what has to be done, why it has to be done and the options i have to have the problem fixed - a lot of time the bigger tuners are flatout and busy and dont have the time - understand that completely too but if the customer service isnt there then it will lose u business because theres always some other tuner willing to pick up what u let go.

Business is never nice - i know that my dad owns one i see what goes on and i know where possible even he will pick on what he call the "inferior product" Up to us to make up our own minds and i think people should let us do that without bias.

I have learnt so much already about my car from this forum - its hard to keep everyone happy - but please lets try - we will all benefit from it in the end.

*Niz nows steps down from her soapbox :P *

Originally posted by Nizmo

Up to us to make up our own minds

I agree we should decide for ourselves and not go on wat someone else says as they may b a one off situation or out 2 stir trubble

Its like reading the tv guide and your fav movie gets 1 star, your opinion is going to b different 2 the reviewers if that makes sense :D

this public service announcement was brought to you by adrian!

hey just wantd to add my words in here

if yall take a look at urselfs, your acting like little kids! (ooh i haven't blown an engine up, i must be doing a better job than you) this is nonsense guys come on! we are all here to enjoy, and talk about skylines and other various things? sure all you tuners ae on board here and a lil rivalry is allowed but don't turn it into an all out slug fest coz of some noodle (XRW) let him say wat he wants! don't go down to the lows he has? i persoanlly think each of the tuners on here steve,jash,lumpy, the guys from speedworks are great, i haven't met you all, hope i do soon but i have heard nuthin but good words about all of you! sure the occassional mishap happens? who really gives a ****? thats where you learn from your mistakes? succedding in everything first time doesn't make u the best! the best are normally the people who failed first time, but learnt from that! so come on guys i am getting a bit sick of this bullshit, dunno bout yous but i'm on here to share thoughts, and help eachother out and most of all have some fun! lets keep it that way hey?

adrian :D

p.s i understand if you ignore this as most of you are double my age :(

We should make the rivalry fun .

I'm gonna grow better sideys than J'ash?

True words there,Speedworks,C RED,SST.are all long term

Premier Speed shops and all have broken parts and will

again as it is the nature of our sport, We just don't

need the Denvers out there shooting their mouths

off.

here here

i agree!

if every shop had a big mouth like denver, noone would be getting anywhere!

p.s speedworks if u wanna get rid of denver , and u need a new driver for the r34 hehe i will be mot willing to help!

adrian :(

never mind No-rspect

the other thread was closed it turned into a slanging match.

yes a car tuned there broke, big deal as mentioned before things break with modified cars all the time, every shop has its good and bad stories.

I think the main thing to come out this thread is that we as customers do care about alittle about the companies history but if we chose to use a company and something breaks we are looking for followup service.

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