Hicas Lock System

[JD-33]

Hi All,

Has anyone used/got a Tomei HICAS Lock System??

http://www.nengun.com/catalogue/product/60

I am thinking about getting one, but would like to hear of any experiences with them first..

especially:

1) Is it easy to install yourself?

2) Are the results noticeable? (worth the money) ?

Any feedback is greatly appreciated..

cheers,

-JD

[yogi000]

hey dude,

i asked the same question a while back in this same forum....do a search you'll find abit of info.

I've got one of these on order.

George

[JCMarshall_Law]

Go with one of GTRGeoff's Lock bars (from this forum). Better all round option. I did, never looked back.

[Syphon]

Geoff is not making those lock bars anymore and no longer has any stock of lockbars for the R33, although he appears to still have some for the R32.

Anyways, you can still purchase a solid bar through http://www.greenline.jp

It is called an ESSENTIAL HICAS Breaker.

Anyways a little off-topic to the original question, honestly do a search as I have read numerous threads on locking hicas and plenty of posts on experiences with the Tomei kit.

[GTAAAH]

hmm i was looking at the same kit and it doesnt seem that its a locking bar. Tried mailing them but there reply to me wasnt very helpful >.<

"tomei HICAS lock" in search function turned up about 3 mentions. But none explained how it would work considering it doesnt have a locking bar and the hicas system on the 32 gts-t is hydraulic and not electrical.

So any one who is more apt with the search control please post I know that its a relatively popular kit but basically i want 0 movement from the back and wanted to know if this woulda achieve it

thx

[sav man]

My Essential lock bar arrived today .

The Tomie kit just locks the hicas rams in the out position with big washers (sydneykid has a few threads on how to copy the tomie kit for free), but it leaves the entire system in place. But a lock bar drops the HICAS rack out, and replaces it, saving weight.

[GTAAAH]

ahh icic, i cant see the hicas weighing more than 5 kilos so im not to worried bout that, ill get the tomei kit (i dont REALLY like removing things that dont came on the car standard) Tried pming GTRgeoff but all i got for a reply is "No" so either he doesnt stock them or make them or has none for 32 gtst

Edited May 17, 2006 by r32 gts-turbo

[woolls]

I heard the lock bar makes the steering feel heavy on the R33? Can anyone confirm if this is true or not?

Edited May 17, 2006 by woolls

[Greg]

yes it made my steering heavy at low speeds, but its not too bad.

[Liz]

I heard the lock bar makes the steering feel heavy on the R33? Can anyone confirm if this is true or not?

i think you are confusing your power steering with your hicas unit....lol. If you remove your power steering, yes your steering will get heavy.

I had noticed no difference in the weight of my steering when my lock bar was put on.

[woolls]

i think you are confusing your power steering with your hicas unit....lol. If you remove your power steering, yes your steering will get heavy.

I had noticed no difference in the weight of my steering when my lock bar was put on.

Well yes I do know the difference between power steering and hicas, I have read and heard that once hicas is removed (R33), steering become a little heaver as Greg has pointed out

thanks for that info Greg

Edited May 18, 2006 by woolls

[Liz]

Well yes I do know the difference between power steering and hicas, I have read and heard that once hicas is removed (R33), steering become a little heaver as Greg has pointed out

thanks for that info Greg

maybe every car is different.... as I noticed little difference at low speeds

[ellie]

There is quite an obviuos difference between P/S and Hi-cas. When the Hi-cas is removed, some people remove the control unit as well unaware that it also has a role to play in the P/S system. The control unit controls the speed dependant power assisted steering (makes the steering light at low speeds and gradually assists less as you go faster making your steering heavier and giving more feel.). So when you remove the control unit, you also remove this function. so it defaults to the heaviest setting all the time!

Hope that helps!

[GTRgeoff]

Some extra castor on the front almost completely removes the heavy steering that can sometimes occur when removing HICAS. Usually it's only at really low speeds so doesn't bother most people. Extra castor is essential to help your car turn in properly instead of thinking about it then having a go a fgew minutes later

I tend not to respond to PM's. Nothing wrong with email.

[Bl4cK32]

The little black box thats a part of the tomei kit, when installed corrects the slow speed heavy feeling. I had heavy steering as my hicas was on/off, but i put the tomei kit in and its all good now.

No heavy steering at all. It still lets power steering errors apper though (as my speedo stopped working), and the hicas light came on.

This is better than just ripping out the hicas, and removing the globe from the dash.

[GTRgeoff]

This is better than just ripping out the hicas, and removing the globe from the dash.

Well, not if you are using it in a race car, which is the intended recipient for my bars that weigh 0.73kg and 32's can save over 20kgs with all the crap removed.

I only offered bars to road car drivers because they were so expensive at one stage and fixing HICAS can be expensive and is no guarantee it won't go haywire again at some stage. Unfortunately too many think it's just another piece of rice, but I do attempt to weed them out, usually the ones asking for pictures.

[Bl4cK32]

Yes, i use it as a road car, so i should have stated for a daily driver i found it was the best for me.

If you do have a track car then go for it, rip out all the 20 odd kg's it saves

[Duncan]

can you send me some pics of these bars?

[GTRgeoff]

[Beer Baron]

geoff your bar looks very nice but does it come with any kind of annodising? or at least a sticker? i would like one in corn flour yellow if possible.