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Hi Guys,

First of all I'm 20 in 2 months

I've done alot of searching but can't seem to find what im looking for.

Now the victoria law for high powered vehicles is that p plates can't drive cars that are more than 125kw per tonne.

A stock R32:

Max power 206kW @ 6800rpm

Weight 1480kg

Which works out to be a power to weight ratio of 140kw which is 15 more than legal limit.

Now my question is can I turn down the boost to get around it?

If the cops pulled me over and said your cars too powerful would I get somewhere to get it tested?

Then i could just turn down the boost for the test and turn it back up afterwards.

Sounds too easy to me, but anymore information regarding this or experiances people have would be great.

I really want a R32 GTR but if I just cant have one then i might just get a R32 GTS-T.

I currently have a V6 VS commodore so the performance jump would still be alot, so if I cant have a GTR i will just have a gts-t for now until I can get a GTR.

I could wait another year and a half until I'm off my P's but theres a few reasons that will save me money to buy a new car now rather then wait.

Thanks for your input in advanced.

Cheers,

Stewart

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In NSW P-platers arent allowed to drive mechanically modified cars either. You could fit a PowerFC and lower the Rev limit to 3500RPM, it'll only be makeing half its normal power then!!!

Somehow i dont think so mate.

So even if the mod made it "less" powerfull i think you'd still be arrested and beaten... :D

Edited by mazgtr

Yeah there is no way to get around it. Get a gtst until your off ur P's.

And by the way have you looked into insurance yet? You'll be paying upwards of $3000 a year.

Or just get it and be prepared for a major arse-loosening the first time the cops pull you over. (And everytime after that)

To put it simply U arnt alowed to drive a twin turbo car on ur p-plates and thats just it I am 20 on my p-plates have a R34 GTt 206Kw single turbo 1440kg and i stil get shit from the cops my cuz even got a fine for driving it the way i get around it is that i ask the police to provide me with a written document where it says that its elegal for me to drive this car and when they say that they cant provid me with it i tell them that they cant fine me then as they dont know jack about skylines its worked so far. but then again police here in victoria can do anything that they want so wer all f**ked

To put it simply U arnt alowed to drive a twin turbo car on ur p-plates and thats just it I am 20 on my p-plates have a R34 GTt 206Kw single turbo 1440kg and i stil get shit from the cops my cuz even got a fine for driving it the way i get around it is that i ask the police to provide me with a written document where it says that its elegal for me to drive this car and when they say that they cant provid me with it i tell them that they cant fine me then as they dont know jack about skylines its worked so far. but then again police here in victoria can do anything that they want so wer all f**ked

Ha ha...ok. It doesnt matter if it's twin turbo or not. All that matter's is the power/weight ratio. And yes sir an R34 GT-T is illegal on P's, as it is over the power/weight ratio. An R33 is also illegal on P's.

So really mate if you want to stay legal just get a nice R32

I went from an R33(got heaps of power/weight fines) to and R32 and i couldnt be happier, well maybe with a bit more low down torque :)

NSW P-Platers have it tougher boys.

3 years on your P's, no V8's, no Turbo's and no Superchargers. None of this power to weight thingy, if its got any of those things you cant drive it Period!!! So a Vic -P-platers can drive a R32GTST, but not a NSW P-Plater. Also a NSW P-Plater cant drive a car with ANY mechanical mods, exhaust/suspension/wheels/ecu.

I got off my P's long ago, so i love that the days of a 18year old rich boy in a Twin Turbo Supra or R34 GTR passing me on P plates are gone.. :)

I think the last batch of P platers that got their licenses before the new rules came in will dissapear in the next 12months...

I didn't even relise the 33 was illegal to drive on p's.

I see so many r33 gts-t's with p plates i guess i just assumed.

The 32 will still suit me just fine but i still liked the option of being able to buy a 33

I was actually going to look at a nice stock '97 33 gts-t today until i read this :)

Thanks for the heads up

NSW P-Platers have it tougher boys.

3 years on your P's, no V8's, no Turbo's and no Superchargers. None of this power to weight thingy, if its got any of those things you cant drive it Period!!! So a Vic -P-platers can drive a R32GTST, but not a NSW P-Plater. Also a NSW P-Plater cant drive a car with ANY mechanical mods, exhaust/suspension/wheels/ecu.

I got off my P's long ago, so i love that the days of a 18year old rich boy in a Twin Turbo Supra or R34 GTR passing me on P plates are gone.. :)

I think the last batch of P platers that got their licenses before the new rules came in will dissapear in the next 12months...

yes, but going by what you said above, there are also cars you can drive that vic's can't

e.g. Honda NSX, S2000, Porsche 911 etc.

Edited by MerlinTheHapyPig

you can drive any car on your p-plates, BUT

it must not exceed 125kw per tonnee.

it doesnt matter if its twin turbo'd, triple turbo'd, supercharged, v12, 500 billion PSI external gate etc. it does NOT matter on type of induction.

the power rule is simply based on FACTORY power output and nothing else. no boost lowering, no compression altering, de-tuning can work around it as its on factory figures

I think alot of it comes down to your driving style also. If you drive like a tool your attracting attention to yourself. The only times I have ever been pulled over have been because I am doing something wrong (and I do spend ALOT of time on the road) not because of the car I am driving. I haven't been pulled over for upwards of a year now in any of my cars.

Just my 2 cents :)

kyle, are you on P's though?

Yep, Not for much longer though :thanks:

Yeah I do have friends also on their p's that are pulled over ALOT, though they have been done in the past for doing burnout's and 'hooning' and such which I don't think helps. But yeah I do agree that P platers are targeted more, it's all about being discrete when your being illegal :)

yes, but going by what you said above, there are also cars you can drive that vic's can't

e.g. Honda NSX, S2000, Porsche 911 etc.

I dont honestley think many P platers can afford to buy and afford to insure a Honda NSX. They'll always be a couple of cars that arent turboed, supercharged or v8's that are quick. This just means that rich P platers will still be allowed to drive fast cars and get around the intended law, the poor will not.

Sounds like a good life lesson....

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