Rb Head Vs Jz Head

[Sydneykid]

Sydneykid. What is your point mate?

I said its LESS relevant. Not irrelevant! You know for a fact that you don't need the most power to win circuit races. Its possible to get a lot faster by spending all the money on the chassis with stock power. If I get a stock car and spend all my money on drag style suspension it will hardly get faster. Obviously you cant have a 1000hp engine in a stock car with shit driver and get awesome drag results. But you have to agree this 1000hp stock suspension car will be MUCH more successful at drag racing than it would at circuit racing. That is my point. There is simply no way to go fast in drag racing without huge power, you can't make up time with a well setup chassis if you don't have the power. Look at cars like lotus etc. They have fricking Camry engines in them and will FLOG skylines because they handle so well. Can this be used to compare the Camry engine to a RB26?

You really have to stop giving me a free ride to fun

What you are saying is only engine power matters

You can't go fast without huge power

So it doesn't matter how much your drag cars weighs, only how much power it makes

So it doesn't matter how aerodynamic your drag car is, only how much power it makes

What you are saying is if I stick a 1000 hp JZ into a bus it will still do the same ET or TS

as say a Tootees door car chassis

To quote a famous TV show "I don't think so Tim"

And I haven't even gotten into traction yet.

cheers

[DennisRB30]

You really have to stop giving me a free ride to fun

What you are saying is only engine power matters

You can't go fast without huge power

So it doesn't matter how much your drag cars weighs, only how much power it makes

So it doesn't matter how aerodynamic your drag car is, only how much power it makes

What you are saying is if I stick a 1000 hp JZ into a bus it will still do the same ET or TS

as say a Tootees door car chassis

To quote a famous TV show "I don't think so Tim"

And I haven't even gotten into traction yet.

cheers

lol good one mate. Read my last post. I never said any of those things, you are implying that I meant them because its best chance you have at making me look stupid.

[Sydneykid]

sydneykid you seem pretty defensive in your comments, but what do you have to show? how much money have you spent? You seem all talk mate, I wish one day u come across some of my mates single turbo Sups, i know a few single turbs sups that have upset alot of big cars on these forums. So don't be biased mate.

No problems, tell 'em to bring it on

I can be at Wakefield Park anytime they like

Let's make it a 30 lap challenge on road tyres

I'll even give them a lap head start

cheers

[DennisRB30]

No problems, tell 'em to bring it on

I can be at Wakefield Park anytime they like

Let's make it a 30 lap challenge on road tyres

I'll even give them a lap head start

cheers

lets get a stock camry engined lotus to race him around the track. This will prove the TOYOTA CAMRY engine is better than an worked RB26. (according to his logic)

Edited July 10, 2006 by DennisRB30

[Sydneykid]

lol good one mate. Read my last post. I never said any of those things, you are implying that I meant them because its best chance you have at making me look stupid.

A quote from you

There is simply no way to go fast in drag racing without huge power

You build the fastest JZ you can with HUGE power

and put it in a bus (I am feeling generous, not a double decker or a bendy, a single decker will do)

I will race you in a standard Skyline

Wanna bet who goes fast and who doesn't?

Too easy, I am getting bored, like candy from a baby

cheers

[elGTR]

How about Willobank, if you can beat a 10.1 @144mph on street tyres and a stock engine than we talking :]. Anything else doesn't inpress me. When you beat a 10.1 (with a stock motor), than he'll come and do some HAPPY LAPS for you .

[R31Nismoid]

Its possible to get a lot faster by spending all the money on the chassis with stock power. If I get a stock car and spend all my money on drag style suspension it will hardly get faster.

Well you could always spend that money on weight reduction.

You dont need power to circuit or drag. Its just generally cheaper.

If you dropped 200kg's off a Skyline or Supra... regardless of its 11ty billion KW's, the car will go faster.

You dont have to have power to go fast, its that simple.

Power is not the be all and end all, its that simple.

[elGTR]

A quote from you

You build the fastest JZ you can with HUGE power

and put it in a bus (I am feeling generous, not a double decker or a bendy, a single decker will do)

I will race you in a standard Skyline

Wanna bet who goes fast and who doesn't?

Too easy, I am getting bored, like candy from a baby

cheers

[R31Nismoid]

How about Willobank, if you can beat a 10.1 @144mph on street tyres and a stock engine than we talking :]. Anything else doesn't inpress me. When you beat a 10.1 (with a stock motor), than he'll come and do some HAPPY LAPS for you .

Had the money been spend on weight reduction and not outright power i bet the car runs the same time or better

Running a time is great, good on you. What does it prove? Little.

[Sydneykid]

You really gotta remember what you said and not get it confused with what I said.

Once more I have to quote you............getting tedious isn't it?

QUOTE(DennisRB30 @ 10 Jul 2006, 01:29 PM)

Anyone that argues MPH at the drags is not a good indication of an engines power potential............

Your the one who claimed MPH is a good indication of engine power

A statement that I totally dissagre with and have proven so with the bus example.

Stick a 1,000 bhp JZ in a bus and I bet it does lousy mph

Hell make it a 2,000 bhp JZ

cheers

[DennisRB30]

Sydneykid.

You are being ridiculous and pedantic. Drag cars have minimum weights which racers try to aim for and no one is going to fit a 1JZ to a bus and aim for good quarter mile times. What are you on mate? Why did I fit my 2JZ to much lighter car than the Aristo my engine came from? Implying I don't know that light well set up cars go faster at the drags is ridiculous (specially since I already mentioned this obvious fact) and shows you have run out of relevant things to argue about in your quest to make me look stupid. It seems like you are taking my position on RB vs JZ as a personal attack and will post the most ridiculous crap like 1JZ double decker drag busses to try and burn me. What is wrong with you?

Come guys, we all know a drag calculators major inputs are MPH and weight to determine power. No need to go stupid.

Edited July 10, 2006 by DennisRB30

[R31Nismoid]

So whats the point of this thread again?

[Sydneykid]

How about Willobank, if you can beat a 10.1 @144mph on street tyres and a stock engine than we talking :]. Anything else doesn't inpress me. When you beat a 10.1 (with a stock motor), than he'll come and do some HAPPY LAPS for you .

What, it's all one way traffic?

He gets to choose first?

Who died and made him king?

Simple challenge, I bet my car is 10% faster than his at any circuit I choose

And his car isn't 10% faster than mine at any drag track he chooses

What shall we race for?

cheers

[Sydneykid]

So whats the point of this thread again?

Rattle the monkey's cage.......and steal his bananas

cheers

PS, I am actually finding it very entertaining, but I have to go, I have a 2600 bhp engine to tune.

[elGTR]

Sydneykid how old are you? ....oh wait, it says it in your user name, SydneyKID .

[DennisRB30]

I'm getting a bit tired of this shit.

Still no flow data I might add.

[Sydneykid]

Sydneykid how old are you? ....oh wait, it says it in your user name, SydneyKID .

Sometimes when you are talking to juveniles you have to speak in their terms

Other wise they don't understand you

Aren't I clever that I can lower myself down to the necessary level?

Without you even suspecting?

Any time you want to challenge me on anything I write, please feel free to do so

But be prepared to put up or shut up

I don't put anything in writing that I can't support 100%

Check around

Cheers

[DennisRB30]

Rattle the monkey's cage.......and steal his bananas

cheers

PS, I am actually finding it very entertaining, but I have to go, I have a 2600 bhp engine to tune.

Looks like you lost your bananas a quite a few posts back mate.

[elGTR]

Sometimes when you are talking to juveniles you have to speak in their terms

Other wise they don't understand you

Aren't I clever that I can lower myself down to the necessary level?

Without you even suspecting?

Any time you want to challenge me on anything I write, please feel free to do so

But be prepared to put up or shut up

I don't put anything in writing that I can't support 100%

Check around

Cheers

what a funny KID, still arguing

[R31Nismoid]

No actually elGTR you are trying to bait users.

Causing this thread to go further off topic.

Kindly read the guidelines