Has this happened to you

[R33NT]

You are sitting at the lights (pole position). Then some twit on a motor bike decides to split the lines (dual lane road) and sit next to you expecting to easily pull ahead of you and cruise down the road with no traffic ahead of him.

Well i have to say i am happy i have a skyline (will be happier once intercooler is plumbed and running 12psi again) because they ALWAYS get chopped. The other day i had some old bloke on a harley (and no i dont want anybody to tell me how slow they are thanks) he rode up on the left of me (i was in the left hand lane), i was ready and when the lights went green i flew straight past him as he was attempting to pull into the lane he was expecting to be clear since his hog was such a beast. hehehehe. He got the fright of his life and nearly ran off the road.... I once had a bloke on a buell give me a confused look because he throttled it at the lights and i was sitting right next to him grinning the whole way to the speed limit.

Its a sport and i am a happy competitor :shake:

[dojobi]

I've never raced a moto to be honest.

One word of advice - don't ever try it against one of the big engined Japanese bikes though (750cc+). No chance at all. Those things are quick as.

[Jay95R33]

I've only done that once, and that's cause someone split the lane and then almost dropped his bike on my car cause it was that much of a tight fit.

He got the $hits when I stayed next to him, but what does he expect?? It's illegal to spilt lanes in Canberra...

J

[R33NT]

Mic33r you would be surprised at how sure of themselves alot of these guys on the bikes are. They dont expect you to go them and as Jay95R33 said it gives them a hell of a fright which they deserve for pulling that sort of thing.......

[WazR32GTSt]

don't get too excited about beating bikes... my dad ownes a hayabusa (suzuki 1300cc BEAST) and not only can it do 320km/h stock but goes 0 - 100 in 2.1sec

hmmmmm...

[MM2death]

2.1 eh?

[(B1) MR_fanny]

yep 2.1

[WazR32GTSt]

yeah 2.1 that wasn't an error...

[Guest INASNT]

even a 250cc bike with a good rider can own u. I tried racing a 600 or so cc once and stayed next to him till about 80kmh then he realised i was racing him and chucked a wheelstand at 80km/h and flew away in a matter of seconds

[Hobzai]

No, bike riders generally don't expect people to "go them" and here's why. They don't lane split at lights to annoy car drivers, or to "line you up for a drag, moite", or so they can get where they're going faster. We (and I say "we" because I lane split under *certain circumstances*) do it for reasons of simple self-preservation. You have a hell of lot less chance of being taken out by a car if there are no cars around you. You might feel the same way with your nice shiny Skyline - get out in front of everyone, nobody to worry about - lovely chubbly. Am I right? Of course!

90% of bike riders don't care in the slightest if your cage does 11's, all they care about is that you indicate before you change lanes, stop at stop signs and red lights, check your blind spots and generally drive like a sane human being.

Next time you feel the Rage coming on, have a think before you do. "Could this get out of control, could I actually end up getting so wound up by this I'd punt him into a lamppost?" If the answer is "Yes.", remember you WILL end up in front of a magistrate, you WILL at the very least get a license suspension and you WILL cop a fine big enough to make window shopping all you do at speed shops. Oh, and in the case of a Harley Davidson it would be prudent to ask "What sort of people might ride a Harley Davidson and what might happen to me if he took serious offence to what I'm about to do?" ;o)

Lane splitting is not illegal way over here in Perth provided a few basic rules are followed. I will stand corrected if anyone has kosher information but that's the last I've heard on it from a reliable source. In most cases the basic rules are not followed by the rider and thus they are in the wrong, however finding evidence to prove it from your position would be difficult since it would all have to happen 50 metres behind you. Lane splitting moving traffic is definitely illegal and makes even me fume in my helmet when I see it being done, as is what the Harley did by splitting on the left of the left lane - very bad form, old man. Gives us all a crap rep.

If a car manages to keep up with me off a set of lights, I try to engage the driver in a dialogue at the next set of lights. Reason 1: to find out what's been done to the car and where he got the bits from. Reason 2: to let him know under what conditions the encounter just occurred. eg: "Wanna go again and this time I'll actually give it the large?" Sometimes I get surprised and that's OK, it's great to see; a *very* quick S14 made me and the driver smile quite a bit. Big thumbs up, all good.

If I see a bike behind me approaching a set of lights and I'm in the 180SX, I generally slide over in the lane a bit and give him room to split - he's going to get off the line faster than I can. And besides if he's got any character, I might get to see a mono which always brightens my day.

Bike riders drive cages, too, y'know. And we have forums just like this one where we bitch and moan about car drivers. ;o)

Hobzai.

[dAVE]

Its always good to chop a bike. Had a dude want to go me on a harley on the way to the first dyno day. He beat me, just, but i kept up the whole way. He was suprised. Also been absolutely killed by some of the quick jap bikes, but its worth it just to see them burn off.

by the way, well said Hobzai

[Duncan]

Well, I hate bike riders plonking themselves in front of the car. I've worked hard for my pole position, and I'll leave the lights faster than 99% of other vehicles. I'm sure the bike CAN leave quicker, but normally they don't choose to.

If bike riders want respect on the road, easy, just follow the rules that everyone else has to. Don't overtake and cut up lanes when there is no room - if you choose to take small gap, (either car or bike), you have to be ready for someone else to see you and for something to go wrong.

[R33NT]

Wazr32GTSt my bro has built a $30k off road buggy with a hayabusa as the power plant. I am well aware of what they are capable of. As soon as it gets a few revs under its belt it is power on over steer all over the place!!!!

INASNT i dont care if he can own me all i care about is giving the idiot a scare so he wont be tempted to split lanes again. I have mates with R6's and GSX-R's and i know i cant beat.

Hobzai. Well where do i start.

Firstly the NT has the highest number of harleys per person in the whole of australia. So there are alot of blokes with a mid life crisis going on. The most annoying thing is that they ALL get the standard exhaust pulled of and replaced with straight through pipe after they buy it. So there are a lot of soft targets up here.

Next if you dont feel safely while obeying the law and riding your bike ie you have to break the law to stay safe GET THE HELL OF YOUR BIKE. I used to race motor cross and i LOVE the rush and the feel of being one with the bike. The sensation of speed and flight is so much more intense on a bike and on a track that is fine. BUT on the road you are a small speck compared to a car, you are harder to see when i pull onto a road you are so small, you can easily sit in my blind spot and i wouldnt know it until i shoulder checked, you are so fast that where i driving along keeping a general eye on things you could be in my blind spot faster than i can track you. In short motor bike riders are a danger to themselves since they chose that mode of transport.

I have a friend with a ZZR1100, he tells me that WHENEVER he rides anywhere he has to ride 5 to 10kph faster than everybody else on the road else he risks sitting in somebody's blind spot and getting splattered.

Seriously though how many older friends do you have that used to have motor bikes and after crashing it and screwing their knees have had to start driving a car. I have only got one out of probably ten that has not got stuffed knees.

HOBZAI I JUST TOOK IT UPON MYSELF TO CALL THE POLICE IN PERTH ON (08) 9222 1111 THEY TOLD ME THAT IT WAS TOTALLY ILLEGAL TO SPLIT LANES IN PERTH..............................................

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[kabab]

Originally posted by MIC33R

I've never raced a moto to be honest.

One word of advice - don't ever try it against one of the big engined Japanese bikes though (750cc+). No chance at all. Those things are quick as.

I tried this....

He overtook me on 1 wheel and gave me a wave

[Hobzai]

R33NT,

Sure:

"I will stand corrected if anyone has kosher information but that's the last I've heard on it from a reliable source." is what I typed in my novel-esque post.

I'll check it with the boys who are On The Job at the next blast. As always, it boils down to Thou Shalt Not Get Caught. Although I'm sure all in this forum are law-abiding citizens of the highest order.

The rest of it has been covered time and time again in all manner of forums worldwide; the arguments tend to lack objectivity on both sides, so I'll waive the right of reply.

I will slide in an agreement on the Mid Life Crisis Crew - some of those boys are cause for concern.

Hobzai!

[R33NT]

Fair Enough.

But i think it boils down to common courtesy to other road going motorists. I mean people in 4wd's dont mount the gutter and cruise up to the head of the que at the lights. In the same way eventhough you can do it on a motor bike you shouldnt and as i pointed out the boys in blue DEFINENTLY didnt agree with the fact that it was all of a sudden legal.

Let me ask you this Hobzai if you are in a line at Maccas do you just walk to the head of the que???? No, you dont because its RUDE.

[Mr. Oizo]

n00b question: what is lane splitting?

[R33NT]

Lane splitting is when you have a dual lane road and a motor bike rides down the line dividing these two lanes ie splitting the lane.

[Mr. Oizo]

oh ok.. motorbike ppl do that all the time in vic.. didnt know it was illegal..

[R33NT]

It is........