Can Race/rally Import Be Used In Targa?

[RU34ME]

hey jus wondering if a race rally import car can be used in targa tasmania...??

or what events can they be used in??

thanks

[Marlin]

Yes they can, we have a Qld rally rego R34.

What sort of vehicle you thinking of?

[Duncan]

damn straight they can and should be

Make sure your import application is for rally use not circuit use they are different and require different licenses NC vs NR

[gtrracer]

Yes not a problem.

Contact CAMs in your state or go to the CAMs website

http://www.cams.com.au/

and you will find the Tarmac Rally regulations under updated links.

This lists the eligible cas and what mods (virtually none for Skylines) you can do.

Good luck

[nismoman]

Please be aware that in NSW the RTA have put a temporary stop to all Rally rego applications for rally use only cars. I last spoke to CAMS in December and they advised the RTA is coming down hard on imports.

Other states seem ok, but in NSW you will find it very difficult to obtain rally rego, so just be sure to check it out fully if you live in NSW before taking the plunge.

[Duncan]

Please be aware that in NSW the RTA have put a temporary stop to all Rally rego applications for rally use only cars. I last spoke to CAMS in December and they advised the RTA is coming down hard on imports.

Other states seem ok, but in NSW you will find it very difficult to obtain rally rego, so just be sure to check it out fully if you live in NSW before taking the plunge.

Spot on, I am having a world of trouble.

Basically NSW RTA will not allow any new registrations for Rally rego for imports - the car must have full compliance instead.

Even though my car has previously been registered as a rally car it has now be refused new registration (I let it lapse since it was off the road at renewal time). I am following up a one-off exemption via CAMS NSW manager talking direct to senior mgmt at the RTA.

[Beer Baron]

Spot on, I am having a world of trouble.

Basically NSW RTA will not allow any new registrations for Rally rego for imports - the car must have full compliance instead.

Even though my car has previously been registered as a rally car it has now be refused new registration (I let it lapse since it was off the road at renewal time). I am following up a one-off exemption via CAMS NSW manager talking direct to senior mgmt at the RTA.

that sucks mate. especially as they wont even let you re-new the rally rego you once held for the car. as for having full compliance, what a joke. surely they must know that would be impossible as your car was imported as a rally car. such a shame, i mean it's not like we are talking about bucket loads of rally rego'd cars here. I can't see what their problem is.

[Marlin]

It's a right bugger allright

Do you reckon it might be something to do with race/rally reg cars not needing to comply with normal vehicle regulations? Or is that just Qld's rules?

[Duncan]

My guess is the problem is importers bringing in rally only cars then selling them locally as cheap cars. Since in NSW they have standard plates there is no way for the cops to know they should be pulling them up to check permits. Just like the 15yo rule....abuse it until it gets shut down to genuine users

I understand in other states the plates are different to regular ones so they are more obvious.

CAMS and the RTA have been having long running discussions over the last 18 months....I just can't beleive I've been caught out with some sort of retrospective change like this.

[nismoman]

Wish the RTA would come to a decision like issuing special rally only registration plates. It's been a long time now. Living in NSW can be frustrating!

At Rally Tas, alot of competitors had all these hot EVO's and WRX's and I ask them how they afford it, and they reply - jap import. Then I find out they are from SA, VIC or QLD. and rally rego is no problem.

In the near future I'd like to use an import for rally/track use only so I hope they clear it up soon.

Best of luck Duncan, I hope you are successful.

[t01-100]

Sent the car to Tassie!

The process was reviewed in here a few months back to tighen things up, but for genuine cases its still easy.

[Duncan]

I am pretty sure I'll be OK but they really should have a proper process.

Stuart, if worst comes to worse I can get temporary rego in Tassie, can't I?

BTW Congrats on your wedding

[Duncan]

OK another update on this for NSW.

I am now the proud holder of the first rego for an uncomplied rally car in NSW and it was a bastard of a process.

Ultimately what you need is all of the cams paperwork (scruitineer inspection, log book, cams license) and rta stuff (blue slip, import approval). Then Michael Smith (NSW CAMS Manager) begs the RTA to approve the rego.

Once approved they assign conditional rego including a 99999C green and white rego plate. Amazingly this rego including greenslip is $90 per year. Then all you need is a permit # from CAMS each time you want to drive it.

So in the end everything is fine, its just that I was apparently the first to go through this new process. CAMS were excellent in helping out. RTA less so.

[Beer Baron]

so no more chance of getting regular plates etc for your limited rego cars? what about cars that are currently registered under the old scheme can they just renew and renew their rego, or will they be forced onto the new system too?

[Marlin]

so no more chance of getting regular plates etc for your limited rego cars? what about cars that are currently registered under the old scheme can they just renew and renew their rego, or will they be forced onto the new system too?

Same for Qld.... special number plate that stands out.

But, car doesn't need to comply with ADR's, therefore, you can drive anywhere with (I think) 15klm from home/to and from an event/for repairs,.... all with no cats, weld in 6 point cage, noisy exhaust, SLICKS!!, race numbers etc..... so it's actually kinda cool!

The fuzz trips out! lol

[Duncan]

No thats the silly bit. If you currently have full rego with conditions on an uncomplied rally car you can renew it as long as you like. You are only in trouble if, like me, you don't get a dodgy pink slip to renew it when it is off the road in a billion pieces for a year.

[Duncan]

lol pretty much the same here marlin it is terrible to see the cops face when they realise its all legal afterall muahahah I can drive it to events, practice and workshops as long as I ring and get a permit first.

So if the workshop I go to is at the end of the old pacific highway at mount white (for instance) I am OK to hoon up the old road with noisy zorst, roll cage, race tyres etc etc

[Beer Baron]

that's a bummer duncan. the stealth factor of stock plates was a big bonus. oh well, shame they wised up and a shame you got burnt for not pinkslipping your temporarily dissambled car.

[PRO_32]

Ok ok, what about a vehicle that has had unrestricted rego (has been complied) previously? Can't really find any info on the rta website.

Cheers

Andrew..

[Duncan]

a fully complied car can also switch to rally rego.