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OK,

So no amount of searching has made this obvious to me as to what I require to fix front camber!

I Just bought new coilover suspension (G4 Racing)

I just bought Rear Camber Arms

Now, all that's left is maybe some sway bars and my FRONT CAMBER FIXED!

What parts do I need to fix this? (castor/tension/pillowball/doodleface rods/bushes, its ALL chinese to me)

Cheers guys!

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This thread may give you some idea why bushes are recommended;

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/in...p;hl=sphericals

Then pop over to the Group Buy section and look up the parts for your model.

:( cheers :P

for front, whiteline adjustable camber bushes will do the job, and are also cheaper than an adustable arm (ie. aftermarket lower control arm). And safer.

You can't get camber plates for skyline (like you can with s13 mcpherson strut) because of the front suspension configuration.

I haven't found much need for camber adjustment on my skyline (neither front or rear), aslong as it's not excessively lowered. The bushes are good for fine tuning though.

Merlin, I think you mean the upper arm. Actually I am curious to discover what brand of arm Strich9 has.

For my 10 cents - if you take your Skyline anywhere within 100 miles of a circuit you need camber adjustment to get the thing to work at all well. The front tends to suffer from a lack of camber adjustment in roll with the unhappy consequence of bulk understeer.

If you lower a GT-R the camber effect on the rear is more pronounced than on the front. You get loads of negative camber on the rear that you don't want or need. The rear kits actually dial out negative camber.

You don't get sufficient negative camber on the front unless you go silly with the ride height. So the front kits usually get used to increase the negative camber. Some people, however, just want a lowered road car & go the other way on the front.

Oh and camber plates are only for MacPherson struts. Wishbone suspended cars would never need such a horrible device.

Edited by djr81
Merlin, I think you mean the upper arm. Actually I am curious to discover what brand of arm Strich9 has.

I meant rear camber arms obviously. And they are eBay specials :( haha

ps thanks for all the advice guys - now how easy are the KCA348 kits to install ?

My car is legal height atm with Nismo Coilovers, soon to be lowered another 2-3cm at the rear, and another 1-1.5cm at the front.

Camber is already a HUGE problem for my rear end, chewing out tyres, hence the rear camber arms.

The front is bad due to the soft spungy stuffed suspension (nismo's are stuffed) hopefully if i can correct it with a few bushes, it will be good!

P.S. Do I need to get a full wheel alignment and everything done once I've installed front and rear camber and new coilovers ?

Stritch, I use Super pro camber adjustment bushes on the front. Little bit expensive as the kit comes complete with tubes, sleeves and bushes. If you want to know more about it or want to have a look at the kit let me know. How bad is the camber now? what reading? Standard height should not give too much problem.

Regards

R Dirty 3

R DIRTY 3,

Do you have any linkage to these super pro camber bushes online?

Approximate price?

Ps. The camber is bad enough right now - enough to scrub the front right wheel to CANVAS and have the outer still remain well within legal limits :(

(no its not stock ride height, but its not that low either!)

haven't used the nolathane ones, i don't think they will be too hard, their website is http://www.nolathane.com.au/

this is what the faq has to say on the issue...

Is Nolathane too hard?

Nolathane formulations have evolved over many years. As the clear market leader in Australia & New Zealand our formulations have become progressively softer whilst becoming stronger. Each bush is designed using the most suitable grade of softness to suit the application. Misinformation spread by small competitors suggests that Nolathane is hard - this is simply old hat! We invite you to compare the "leading brands" and you will find virtually all bushes are now of similar softness. As the Australian & New Zealand markets are so small with only 24 million total population we have focused away from just motor sport application to what we call 'Streetable Polyurethane". In other words you can fit Nolathane products to a family car and obtain good performance improvement without compromising too much on ride, improved handling, steering & in many cases brake response without a harsh ride. Most Polyurethane you might see in the USA or Europe is around 93-95 Durometer shore A as they concentrate on a racing / extreme performance market, less than 1% of the Nolathane range is 93 Duro and these are normally to replace original hard nylon bushes. Most of our products are 74 or 85 Duro. When we design a bush we evaluate the best duro (hardness) for the application and that is what we design to, we do not normally make the same part in different hardness's as we try to pick the best handling / ride compromise.

Do urethane bushes squeak?

Basically NO. squeaking is caused by high frequency vibrations that can be heard rather than felt. Usually the cause of squeaking is the incorrect application of grease (not greasing the correct areas eg: flange faces & internal bores), greasing the incorrect areas (outside of bushes designed to be installed inside the suspension component) or even over greasing (applying grease everywhere), however the presence of rust, paint or rubber deposits between the bush and the component or housing can also be a major factor.

anyway, whiteline bushes use polyurethane, which i think is the same stuff nolethane bushes use anyway?

oh also, the whiteline adjustable camber bushes (r32 gtst) state +/- 0.5deg camber adjusment

the nolethane camber adjusment bush kit states +/- 1.5deg camber adjusment

i haven't researched cost, but i'd probably be going the nolethane kit.

Edited by MerlinTheHapyPig
whiteline bushes use polyurethane, which i think is the same stuff nolethane bushes use anyway?

oh also, the whiteline adjustable camber bushes (r32 gtst) state +/- 0.5deg camber adjusment

the nolethane camber adjusment bush kit states +/- 1.5deg camber adjusment

Nolathane bushes are ~90 duro, Whiteline are ~75 duro, standard rubber is ~30 duro (when new, around 10 duro after 60,000 k's)

Nolathane correction assumes their adjustable bushes are used in both the inner and the outer joints of the upper control arms

Whiteline correction assumes their adjustable bushes are used in only the inner joints of the upper control arms. You can also use them in the outer joints if you need the extra correction.

Nolathane's correction includes the standard adjusters, Whiteline's doesn't.

Bottom both the same, just Nolathane are red and 90 duro (good for racing), Whiteline are yellow and 75 duro (good for a combo road and race).

:wave: cheers :O

Edited by Sydneykid

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