Sau Nsw; Anyone Selling Rubber For A Livin'?

[someonestolecc]

Anything larger than 245 on the back I find are dicey as. Also from my limited experience with 245/265 tyres they seemed to be worse when the fronts are smaller.

If you're gonna keep getting tyres that big and you want good wet weather thing it might be a compromise you have to make, even if you find tyres with good water channels in them

[edit: There's something about this thread that makes me want to say I DONT SELL RUBBA BUT ILL DO SOME DICKIN!!! ... ok. sorry it's out of my system now.]

[Munkyb0y]

so has there been any good deals offered up here?

or are we just bagging out nankangs, which i have on my car, 18" 235 / 265.

they grip fine in the dry. wet not so good, but then what is?

[N1GTR]

A lot of it comes down to driver skill.

[satanic]

Or an AWD system...

[N1GTR]

Oh, well that didnt take long

FYI ive been running rwd for a while, in the rain, without incident until the motor came out

And also, incase you didnt know, the R32 AWD is RWD around corners and only uses front torque in straight lines. And if the wet is so bad, then wouldnt the corners be the hardest part?

[satanic]

OK in other words it's not the car (unless it's a GTR); it's the driver - point taken.

I should really invest in some driver training - preferably one that teaches you how to drive with slicks on in the rain. Any contacts?

[Liz]

incidents...

Steve - 0

Stan - 1

ZING!

just jokes boys

Stan - I found Fuldra Excellero to be an excellent wet weather tyre, but in the dry due to the soft rubber compound didn't last me long at all... we all know how much i freak out when i oversteer, but not once do i recall them slipping.

perhaps it was because I did about 4 track days in them....Oh and as soon as you get too much heat to them, they die aswell.

now, RE95's, these puppies are awesome, they do not grip at all..it's unreal! lol.. not bad for $40 a tyre though.

Anyhow, isn't there a massive thread about all this somewhere? Use the search button n00b

[N1GTR]

OK in other words it's not the car (unless it's a GTR); it's the driver - point taken.

I should really invest in some driver training - preferably one that teaches you how to drive with slicks on in the rain. Any contacts?

You shouldnt have slicks in the rain Stan (and by slicks, you must just mean worn out cheap tyres due to way too much power), but incase you're being serious (and i dont think you are) look out for a skid pan day, that will help you understand weight transfer which is a big part of driving in the wet.

Surely someone running a workshop would be smart enough to have legal tyres on their car.

[wilch]

so has there been any good deals offered up here?

or are we just bagging out nankangs, which i have on my car, 18" 235 / 265.

they grip fine in the dry. wet not so good, but then what is?

Nankangs are absolute rubbish. Try them on the track. Pieces of f**king shit.

[N1GTR]

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/in...showtopic=72923

incidents...

Steve - 0

Stan - 1

ZING!

just jokes boys

Stan - I found Fuldra Excellero to be an excellent wet weather tyre, but in the dry due to the soft rubber compound didn't last me long at all... we all know how much i freak out when i oversteer, but not once do i recall them slipping.

perhaps it was because I did about 4 track days in them....Oh and as soon as you get too much heat to them, they die aswell.

now, RE95's, these puppies are awesome, they do not grip at all..it's unreal! lol.. not bad for $40 a tyre though.

Anyhow, isn't there a massive thread about all this somewhere? Use the search button n00b

Too easy ^^^^^

[N1GTR]

Nankangs are absolute rubbish. Try them on the track. Pieces of f**king shit.

Same as ZIEX and ESCTAS imo - they will slide and slide and slide

[DRFTD_32]

As mentioned stan I can find you some well priced tyres so please let me know if you need any help bud!

[BLISTC]

im using dunlop sp sport maxx right now

in 17" they set me back just under $300 a tyre for 245/40/17

they have awesome wet weather grip

ive done 1 track day @ oran park gp, kids race day, about 15,000kms of normal driving, and 2 wsid days, and 3 motorkhanas, and the rears are about on 40% [damn wsid] and the fronts are about 60%

i bought em in december last year, i reakon ill get over a year out of em if i dont go to wakefield lol

Edited September 12, 2006 by BLISTC

[someonestolecc]

Nankangs are absolute rubbish. Try them on the track. Pieces of f**king shit.

I fully support Nankangs for drift. Even on the fronts they melt a bit but predictable slidey slide for beginner level. Probably a bit too crap as it gets warm for intermediate-advanced though...

[SECURITY]

A lot of it comes down to driver skill.

Or an AWD system...

it comes down to the driver.

GTR or no GTR, if you're a shit driver (or a good driver for that matter) it wont matter what car you've got.

get someone with a good time to take your car around the same track...

when someone beats you with your own car you've got problems.

[N1GTR]

it comes down to the driver.

GTR or no GTR, if you're a shit driver (or a good driver for that matter) it wont matter what car you've got.

get someone with a good time to take your car around the same track...

when someone beats you with your own car you've got problems.

Well put Joe

[nfi]

Well put Joe

I wouldn't totally agree! Ask Duncan and anyone that has done Dutton or something similar. You will often find your friends are faster in your car as they will have much less mechanical sympathy

I haven't let anyone other than me drive mine but I wouldn't be surprised if a friend did.

[N1GTR]

I wouldn't totally agree! Ask Duncan and anyone that has done Dutton or something similar. You will often find your friends are faster in your car as they will have much less mechanical sympathy

I haven't let anyone other than me drive mine but I wouldn't be surprised if a friend did.

Yes you have a good point, but sometimes the owner just isnt as good as the mate, but is still prepared to break the car having a go

[Tosh]

Oh, well that didnt take long

FYI ive been running rwd for a while, in the rain, without incident until the motor came out

And also, incase you didnt know, the R32 AWD is RWD around corners and only uses front torque in straight lines. And if the wet is so bad, then wouldnt the corners be the hardest part?

not quite Steve, the ATESSA system is designed to deliver torque to the front wheels whenever a loss of traction is detected in the rear. There is no distinction between forward motion and lateral motion.

I have on many occasions driven R32 GTR's around the circuit and made full use of the 4WD system mid-corner and on corner exit.

And for the record, James is spot on with his tyre breakdown. high grip = softer compound = higher wear rate.

This is the way it goes and in the pursuit of the perfect balance between grip and longevity, sacrifices need to be made. Whichever tyre you decide to go with, your wet weather grip is largly dependant on throttle input/position. I have driven cars around the 200rwkw mark on BRIDGESTONE Potenza RE-01R's (Bridgestone Japan's absolute top of the range/high grip road tyre for those that don't know) in the wet and the use of full throttle only resulted in a loss of traction. This demonstrates that no road tyre is going to keep 100% traction in the wet if the driver is not careful. By being very gentle with the throttle (not just how far you apply it but HOW you apply it) you can control the car quite easily even in the rain.

[N1GTR]

not quite Steve, the ATESSA system is designed to deliver torque to the front wheels whenever a loss of traction is detected in the rear. There is no distinction between forward motion and lateral motion.

I have on many occasions driven R32 GTR's around the circuit and made full use of the 4WD system mid-corner and on corner exit.

Tosh, the ATESSA does take readings from the lateral g sensors, and if you watch the gauge in corners it will mainly not be AWD if at all, mid corner (depending on corner) and on corner exit, yes, its AWD as the forward sensor is giving a big reading, and the computer is designed to use more front tourque

Id offer my car to demonstrate it to you

There are 3 G sensors that control the torque split. 2 longitudinal and 1 lateral- The computer takes is most substantial reading from the longitudinal ones (i.e Under accel/decel), the lateral one will REDUCE front torque when it sees high g's (to reduce the chance of understeer).

Maybe mine has a grid dancer and i dont know about it, but ive seen other R32's do the same thing in the same conditions, nevertheless, the point of this thread was to help stan save a dollar by buying cheap tyres, and yes, you're correct, grip means shorter life in general.