Safc Tune

[Birnie]

I used to have one but forgotten most features....but i 'think' it may have the ability to save 2 tunes??? (the SAFC-II that is)

Why you would want that i do not know but anyway, it's there.

If you already have a SAFC-I, it should be fine.

If you're looking to buy, you may as well get the SAFC-II

I think there's even a newer one that has 256 colours or something??? on nengun... looks frigin sweet !

Edited October 7, 2006 by Birnie

[Munkyb0y]

here's my dyno graph:

have you got one showing your afr's ?

that's some pretty steady boost there. which boost controller are you using?

[FATAZZ]

SAFC-1 tuned by HITMAN $200

[SECURITY]

have you got one showing your afr's ?

that's some pretty steady boost there. which boost controller are you using?

he didnt give me one showing my a/f

it was a jammed turbosmart, full of crap and wouldnt boost past 12psi no matter how much i opened it up... untill i blew my motor.

ive got a turbotech now and it holds boost even better.

[Munkyb0y]

I might just hunt down a used safc1. I doubt i'd see benefits from an safc2.

Good to hear the turbotech does its job. I've got one, but waiting to fit it with safc/tune.

Joe, what's your intake setup? pod, panel, cai? You've got very decent intake temps.

[moonus]

hey tony, i was going to buy a safc and get it tuned by hitman for $400. JeeTeeEss25Tee was the guy who offered it to me. But i bought a power fc instead yesterday. if you want that offer, just pm him. he made a post in this thread on page 1.

cheers

[Munkyb0y]

PM'd JeeTeeEss25Tee. thanks moonus.

Edited October 8, 2006 by Munkyb0y

[SECURITY]

i just have a pod filter.

im installing a cai soon using the spare hole under my pod with a pipe leading to a space in my front bar. should be sweet.

[Munkyb0y]

I just spoke to matt (hitman), and he reckons that i should only expect very slight improvement in economy from a safc/tune.

confusing

[JeeTeeEss25Tee]

I've read mixed reports about safc improving fuel economy. Many say it does, but others say it wont.

I'm not after big power, just keeping things moderate, but as a daily driver, i need the economy to improve.

I suspect it's running rich with 3inch exhaust and pod. 15L/100kms.

What's your take on this ? Safc will bring me joy, or dissapointment?

From that calculation you are doing about 433km per full tank (65 lt) ye? Mine one was about the same before SAFC (more like 410km) and after SAFC I got an average of 480 to 500 both highway and city driving. If that isn't good enough I'm sure the dyno figure will bring a smile on your face.

[Munkyb0y]

yeah, i'm gonna try and get out there this week sometime.

Matt seemed very helpful. He suggested getting out there so he could suss it out, diagnostics, etc.

I will most likely be installing your safc Jerry.

thanks mate.

edit: 480kms from 65L (13.5L/100kms) isnt that great either though, is it? When ppl say eg. 450kms per tank, they arent running their tank dry (65L worth), are they? From what i've seen, claims of about 11L/100kms are common.

SECUR1TY, how many litres are you getting per 100kms, or how many kms per 50Litres?

Edited October 9, 2006 by Munkyb0y

[SECURITY]

ive just calculated it by my last tank which i got 470k's when the petrol light came on (my car still needs a tune). i calculated 13.8L/100km, so thats pretty average for skylines.

if you're looking for excellent fuel economy you've bought the wrong car. 480 is good out of a skyline. dont forget its a turbo 6cyl. you should only compare it to other cars in its class.

i get approx. 350k's out of my lancer (40L tank), and 300ish k's out of my m3 (60L tank, but its running an un-tuned EMS computer).

if you want something that wont eat up all of your petrol money you should think about buying a weekday workhorse.

[Beer Baron]

damn i hate people quoting XXX kms per tank... it's such a useless figure. if you want to know fuel economy. fill your tank full. then drive 300kms. and fill it up. let's say it too in 45 litres to fill again. so it took 45 litres for 300kms = 15/100kms.

i wish I had 13l/100kms. my GTR is 22l/100kms (mix of city/highway, but no peak hour driving) and my V8 soarer is not far behind at 18l/100kms (almost all peak hour, city driving). The only decent one is the R32 GTST which from memory was around 13l/100kms. i say just deal with it, fix it, or drive less. or buy a cheap arse 1.3l econobox:)

[JeeTeeEss25Tee]

I'm using that calculation, it's just easier for me to say per tank figure than per 100km figure. Just like kw or hp whatever. But ye if anyone using the fuel gauge to estimate then they will never get it right.

damn i hate people quoting XXX kms per tank... it's such a useless figure. if you want to know fuel economy. fill your tank full. then drive 300kms. and fill it up. let's say it too in 45 litres to fill again. so it took 45 litres for 300kms = 15/100kms.

i wish I had 13l/100kms. my GTR is 22l/100kms (mix of city/highway, but no peak hour driving) and my V8 soarer is not far behind at 18l/100kms (almost all peak hour, city driving). The only decent one is the R32 GTST which from memory was around 13l/100kms. i say just deal with it, fix it, or drive less. or buy a cheap arse 1.3l econobox:)

[Beer Baron]

but saying 300kms to a tank means nothing. what is a tank size? i've tried looking it up but funnily enough there is no industry standard for a 'tank of fuel'. horspower is a standard unit of measurement so I dont see how that compares. a kilometer is a standard unit measurement as is a litre. a tank is meaningless.

it's just a pet hate of mine.

[Munkyb0y]

lol, calm down beer baron. yes it's agreed, L/100kms is a more useful measurement.

i'm curious as to why so many members on the numerous 'fuel' threads quote as low 11L/100kms. Maybe wishful thinking, or maybe mostly highway k's?

Anyway, yeah i'm not concerned about my skyline burning fuel, only concerned if it's burning alot more than it should be.

You know what i mean?

[SECURITY]

when you're commenting on the same car with the same capacity tank its fine.

[moonus]

thanks for hijacking my thread. jkes. dw i dun need a safc anymore.

[Munkyb0y]

I went to see hitman today. very nice guy, helpful, and cluey.

anyway, while poking around, checking consult readout etc, matt pulls the ecu out and finds a unichip unit hidden behind it. lol. i had no idea it was there. he told me to keep it rather than swap it for a safc, coz it can do a bit more, like timing and possible boost.

so it looks like JeeTeeEss25Tee's safc is still for sale.

if it wasnt for the unichip, i would've had it by now.

i'm off to research unichip now. any advise for me?

[siddr20]

sorry to bump the thread again.

I was wondering what is HITMANS number, and where is he located??

Also another quick question..

Will a safc help me in the following:

Fix up my flat spots (real bad flat spots)

Improve fuel economy (seems like you have proven it has)

But the most important thing i want is to be able to fix my flat spots..

I dont want more power extracted with more flat spots!!

Cheers all..