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i believe that the new law is abit stupid its not the car that causes the impact its the driver because most of the big p plate accidents are in little shitters like exels and things like that i think you should start small and work your way up. i started in a 1.3 corolla then worked my way up. thats just my 2c

Yea but its the dickhead drivers who they they are "fully sic" because they have a turbo car of v8 and they think they can handle it but cant.

I started off in a skyline 3.0 NA learnt my lesson that rwd is very scary when dont know what its like..

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i would just like to no if anyone here has that stuipd P plater rule aginst them, how they cannot drive a turbo,supercharged car and a V8, and if u do, is there anyone who drives one anyway?

and do cops pull u up?

and do they not figure out that your on that restriction?

and whats the penalty if u get caught??

P.S i dont wont to heaR FROM other people on this fourm who will say u shoudent be riving a turbo car anyway, well shutup this Q is not for you!

how a you going guys im in melbourne had my r33 gtst for 2 yrs and a year an a half on my p plates never been caught speeding nor doing burnouts, no defectives on the car just got a s*it load of fine for power to weight and im going to court next month for a p plater driving a high powered car so just think about it if you want all these problems. cause i know i dont :)

how a you going guys im in melbourne had my r33 gtst for 2 yrs and a year an a half on my p plates never been caught speeding nor doing burnouts, no defectives on the car just got a s*it load of fine for power to weight and im going to court next month for a p plater driving a high powered car so just think about it if you want all these problems. cause i know i dont :O

:)

Mod or admin delete this comment! ^^

People like you shouldnt be encouraging other people to do stupid things as well.

this fourm is great! so many fast replys, and more then half of you were not spose to reply, lol.

i was originally thinking getting a r32 N/A do the cams, throtles, ECU, exuasht, extractors and CAI wit pod, that would get me to around 130-140 rwkw, and i was thinking that would be splenty for a N/A, keep up wit some of the turbo's meh mates have, and D.I.F iam fully sick.

and thanx guys i release now not worth getting a turbo, and the reason i wonted a turbo is because there the same price as a N/A lol, and iam 18 as of 3 months ago, and i have being driving a tx3 fuel injected 1.6L laser for past 2 years (FWD) and the past 5 months ive being driving my mums xr6 Ford, new model, N/A lots of weight lots of power, havent lost control once, my uncel is an ex rally car driver and he has taught me driving since i was 12, so i think i cna handel a turbo, but i think i will lay of getting a turbo, because i dont wanna risk getting caught, and i could always get the r32 N/A and make it the car of ym dreams, inside and looks point of view, mad sound system e.g. AND THEN! when i get meh full license drop a r32gtr twin turbo engine into it :)

thanx guys

P.S $50 off, boo yeah, when i get meh car, ill be there :O

You'll get reamed by the cops for even putting an exhaust on the car, yet alone all the other bits you wanted to do to your N/A

Buy an N/A car, keep it that.

I've had HEAPS of driving experience, from trucks, to FWD, to FWD Turbos, to V8 RWDs... I've even had some track time with go-karts etc.

NOTHING prepared me for getting in a turbo car.

The night I picked it up, I actually scared myself. Came out of a corner I knew really well (Hair pin), on a steep downhill, so was using 2nd gear to hold my speed so I didn't burn the breaks. As I exit the corner I went to accelerate out like I used to in my old car (Put down about 1/4 throttle just to get back up to the speed limit) but stupid me forgot, IT'S TURBO! Hit boost and shit myself.

No matter how long you've driven for. If you've never DRIVEN a turbo, you'll most likely wrap it around a pole... NOT FUN!

I'm tame on the streets when driving, and I've had a few "close calls" (Sideways etc).

And I also used to get my old ute out on dirt/grass and throw it around to handle the slides, but a turbo car is TOTALLY different to an N/A when being thrown around. They are SO much more responsive to the throttle.

In all honest opinion, I was against these laws when they came in (Being a P-plater, even though I'm exempt) but now, after buying a turbo, I'm all for them. Turbos are bloody dangerous.

IMO, a 200RWHP turbo, is alot more dangerous, then a 300RWHP N/A engine... Turbos just thump the power down suddenly and pull like a train to redline.

Do yourself a favour. Avoid the torture of being pulled over and questioned, I know HEAPS of people who have been questioned over it, and heaps of P-platers on here have had the same questions.

So yes, the police do check. 99% of the police know the difference between an N/A and a Turbo engine, just by looking at it from above (See how an NA engine has a shit load LESS pipes?)

And can I get $50 off my first track day to learn my car?

how a you going guys im in melbourne had my r33 gtst for 2 yrs and a year an a half on my p plates never been caught speeding nor doing burnouts, no defectives on the car just got a s*it load of fine for power to weight and im going to court next month for a p plater driving a high powered car so just think about it if you want all these problems. cause i know i dont
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Mod or admin delete this comment! ^^

People like you shouldnt be encouraging other people to do stupid things as well.

Did you even read his comment?

He wasn't encouraging anyone to do anything - in fact he was doing the complete opposite by implying that people learn from his mistake...

Did you even read his comment?

He wasn't encouraging anyone to do anything - in fact he was doing the complete opposite by implying that people learn from his mistake...

I know but hes also saying he is doing it himself

Well, im on my P's...again after being disqualified for a while.

Since my licence has been on the RTA records since way before the new laws came in, ive got no vehicle restrictions. Which is awesome coz i just got my 32 a few weeks ago, dunno how i ever lived without one lol.

Neways, the cops hassle me like theyre on a mission. Although they cant get me for nething :(

Got pulled over today n told them the same story ive told plenty of other cops. N damn do they look unhappy coz they cant book me

First time i drove a decent turbo car was my friends tx3. I would have only been 18. If you get something like that it just looks like a normal laser. It's also awd which makes then good to handle and i found that when the boost was set to only around 8 psi it came on heaps smoothly and wasn't to much like driving a turbo car.

I don't really care for these laws and don't really no if they will stop p platers speeding. I remember going 200km/h(yes stupid) in my mums magna on the highway. when your young and stupid your young and stupid in any car. I would have felt much safer doing 200km/h in my gtr though.

I don't really think the hassle from the cops is really worth going through though. Especially the cost of insurance and stuff for these cars at this age.

i was originally thinking getting a r32 N/A do the cams, throtles, ECU, exuasht, extractors and CAI wit pod, that would get me to around 130-140 rwkw, and i was thinking that would be splenty for a N/A, keep up wit some of the turbo's meh mates have, and D.I.F iam fully sick.

and thanx guys i release now not worth getting a turbo, and the reason i wonted a turbo is because there the same price as a N/A lol, and iam 18 as of 3 months ago, and i have being driving a tx3 fuel injected 1.6L laser for past 2 years (FWD) and the past 5 months ive being driving my mums xr6 Ford, new model, N/A lots of weight lots of power, havent lost control once, my uncel is an ex rally car driver and he has taught me driving since i was 12, so i think i cna handel a turbo, but i think i will lay of getting a turbo, because i dont wanna risk getting caught, and i could always get the r32 N/A and make it the car of ym dreams, inside and looks point of view, mad sound system e.g. AND THEN! when i get meh full license drop a r32gtr twin turbo engine into it :no:

thanx guys

P.S $50 off, boo yeah, when i get meh car, ill be there :)

I doubt a non turbo would make that much power? even then, it would still be alot for someone with less experience with driving on the roads. doesnt matter if you have been driving your mums falcon or not. full time driving, in all different conditions is what you need to learn in all types of cars, rwd, fwd, rain, blackice, dirt etc etc,

and if your uncle is an ex rally driver - you should be great out on the track - let us know which day you goto - would be interesting!

oh, and your prob buying a GTR than doing the engine swap in a few years, they'll be cheap as chips! :(

Bro I got stuck with this question too over a year ago.

I was in the market for a car. Always loved Skylines and had dreams of purchasing one.

The P plate things sorta screwed me over as I had the chance on getting a turbo R33 but couldn't obviously. The possibility of driving it anyway and ignoring the rules was an option, but not one I took.

I'm pretty glad I didn't. I picked up a R33 GTS (n/a) and I love it. Looks good (to me anyway), Got it cheap (had to travel to Mildura - In Victoria) but who cares?

The GTS has enough power for anyone. I've had some pretty close calls in it. In the end they all can do 110km/h. :P

People give you shit about it not being turbo. Most of it is just jealousy, as they don't stop and think about the P plate rules ._.

I have been pulled over heaps. I have done nothing wrong (the car + chromies draw attention like dogs balls), and I am the only guy at my school (along with my best mate) who still have full points on their Reds. My other mates (comoodore, lancer, mazda, corolla) all have been done for speeding.

Everytime I get pulled over it's for a "random" breath test. (Once at 8:00am heading to school with my little brother) Which then follows with a "is this car turbochrged?" and then a "can you please lift the bonnet please?"

2 cops that have pulled me over and asked me to lift the bonnet have had no idea what they where looking for. Yeah sure I could of probably got away with a turbo but it's not worth the risk.

On the otherhand. A guy I know got busted on his reds with a WRX. Car got impounded. (Ended up costing him $1300 total for the impoundment + fines). He lost 7 points.

I know of a couple of people driving turbos on their reds. But it's a risk I'm not willing to take. Once the Police do catch up with them, that $1300 could go towards my next car (or RB26DETT) :sick:

Sorry for the life story. All the best with whatever action you decide to take.

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