R34 Gtr 2j Conversion

[PHATR32]

but the r32 gtr has GODZILLA statuts, which pwns everything till the end of time.......

steve

[gts-4 dreamer]

hmmm 2jz in a 25t rolling shell would be interesting,

but then again still cheaper to wack on a 3lt bottom end an get hte same power less the high rpms ?

hmm wonder if you could bore a block to a 3lt capacity and not enlarge the stroke hence making higher rpms possible with better cams and making the 3lt power ?

how much thickness is there to play with ? I wonder if there is a block I could use to achieve what I want. .. dished head pistons, bore out a 26 block as they are thicker... mybe an N1 block thicker again..... hmmmmm

i likes my higher rpms.

[CruiseLiner]

hahahahahaha... is it juz me or has the topic totaly changed... i think a 2jz in a 34gtr trim would b the ultimate street car... from the pics the job looks pretty crap but maybe they already got the car that way and since it was half ruinned they thought let try something different..

i love skylines but it is common fact that 2jz and 1jz are cheaper and better engines then rb26 / 25... but for me the overall benefits of puttin a 2jz into a gtr would be hardly worth the $$$ or the hastle... but then again these guys obviously dont care about that... i actually read an article in zoom a few months ago where a guy had a 2jz lying around so he chucked it into his r32 gtst.. and now he runs easy 9s in a full trim street car with fairly mild mods (for a 9 sec car)... i guess if u got the $$$ and the means to do it then go for it but i know if i had the $$$ i would just buy a mine's gtr from japan and im sure i b more then happy...

that r32 gtst had a 7m toyota motor not a 2jz and yes it runs 9s with some mods. its from TRP workshop.

they said they are switching to a 2jz soon as the 7m is now in a datto 1200 ute

[Black_Widow34]

hmmm 2jz in a 25t rolling shell would be interesting,

but then again still cheaper to wack on a 3lt bottom end an get hte same power less the high rpms ?

hmm wonder if you could bore a block to a 3lt capacity and not enlarge the stroke hence making higher rpms possible with better cams and making the 3lt power ?

how much thickness is there to play with ? I wonder if there is a block I could use to achieve what I want. .. dished head pistons, bore out a 26 block as they are thicker... mybe an N1 block thicker again..... hmmmmm

i likes my higher rpms.

not a bad idea except for the price of a N1 block u can get a 2jz and a bit left over for a few mods...

[Sicarius123]

that r32 gtst had a 7m toyota motor not a 2jz and yes it runs 9s with some mods. its from TRP workshop.

they said they are switching to a 2jz soon as the 7m is now in a datto 1200 ute

I saw that rigoli 32 on the road not long after he built it on parramatta rd. pulled up next to him in a friends WRX and my other friend recognised Tony Rigoli. Yelled out "are you tony rigoli? how much for a 10 sec package on this wrx?", he yelled out "buy this skyline instead", and launched it doing fishy's accross three lanes up the road.

Dan.

[Black_Widow34]

that r32 gtst had a 7m toyota motor not a 2jz and yes it runs 9s with some mods. its from TRP workshop.

they said they are switching to a 2jz soon as the 7m is now in a datto 1200 ute

oops sorry ur right... i just dug up the article... but yeah if u can get that sort of performance with a 7m then i would love to see it with the 2jz..

[Chris_R33GTSt]

How difficult would it be to engineer a 2JZ into a 33 GTS rolling shell. I was looking at sinking at least 10-15K into my RB25 but now you put ideas in my head...

[Black_Widow34]

How difficult would it be to engineer a 2JZ into a 33 GTS rolling shell. I was looking at sinking at least 10-15K into my RB25 but now you put ideas in my head...

i dont think that be enought for a good quality job... i know when i had a civic and wanted an engine swap the engine was around $2500 but everyone told me i will be looking at close to $10k... and that was for a simple swap with not much custom work...

[Chris_R33GTSt]

I was planning on making my car a Sunday special after a few years of daily driving. Other than custom engine mounts and custom gearbox bell housing would it be to hard to bolt everything else up or is there more shit to worry about? That is to say that the 2JZ is out of a front cut and running a custom ECU with all other components in working order?

That aside how much fun would a stock looking 25T be with an 800HP 2JZ under the bonnet!

Did anyone say stealth

Edited December 19, 2006 by Chris_R33GTSt

[Black_Widow34]

I was planning on making my car a Sunday special after a few years of daily driving. Other than custom engine mounts and custom gearbox bell housing would it be to hard to bolt everything else up or is there more shit to worry about? That is to say that the 2JZ is out of a front cut and running a custom ECU with all other components in working order?

That aside how much fun would a stock looking 25T be with an 800HP 2JZ under the bonnet!

Did anyone say stealth

Yeah a nice sleeper is always cool... im not sure what else would need to be custom... but all i know is that engine swaps always blow out of proportion and out of budget... if u got the money for it then talk to a few workshops and see what they say but if it was me i would blow the 10k on the rb and have a very nice toy to play with on sundays... plus dont forget you would also need to spend money on suspension and braking...

[Chris_R33GTSt]

Yeah a nice sleeper is always cool... im not sure what else would need to be custom... but all i know is that engine swaps always blow out of proportion and out of budget... if u got the money for it then talk to a few workshops and see what they say but if it was me i would blow the 10k on the rb and have a very nice toy to play with on sundays... plus dont forget you would also need to spend money on suspension and braking...

Hehe, my old race mechanic had a 302 Windsor V8 putting out about 400hp under the bonnet of a 1976 264 Volvo. Supra 5 speed and a Jag indie rear suspention set up. That was the most insane fun car to drive in cause it came out of nowhere and you could leave it parked anywhere with the keys in the ignition n no one would take it.

Well there are bout 10000000 white R33 Gtsts floating around syd so it would be pretty cool to have a stocko stealth car that would shread anything!

Edited December 19, 2006 by Chris_R33GTSt

[CruiseLiner]

dont forget u need a 5 speed box or 6 speed if ya rich, as most 2jz cuts are aristo models and auto.

w58 i think is the 1jz 5 speed box and suitable for the 2jz, they are about 2k and pretty rare to get hold of.

2jz 6 speed is some bullshit price last time i checked and not really worth it over the w58.

u got engine, box, clutch, ecu, turbo (stockies are shit), cooler, piping, engine mounts, exhuast, tailshaft, sump might be an issue?, wiring to factory dash, speedo, and general other bits and pieces. i would go a 2jz in a r33 gts-t anyday if i had the choice between that and doing a rb25 setup.

stock 2jz are making 800-900hp at wheels safely (a rare few have gone over 1000hp) in the states but remember this is on there dynos which read alot higher (someone mentions 20% higher in some other threads). but u will never see a rb26 survive for long on even 500-600hp at wheels thats for sure.

2jz ftw

i'd go a 2jz in my stagea but its 4wd

[Black_Widow34]

dont forget u need a 5 speed box or 6 speed if ya rich, as most 2jz cuts are aristo models and auto.

w58 i think is the 1jz 5 speed box and suitable for the 2jz, they are about 2k and pretty rare to get hold of.

2jz 6 speed is some bullshit price last time i checked and not really worth it over the w58.

u got engine, box, clutch, ecu, turbo (stockies are shit), cooler, piping, engine mounts, exhuast, tailshaft, sump might be an issue?, wiring to factory dash, speedo, and general other bits and pieces. i would go a 2jz in a r33 gts-t anyday if i had the choice between that and doing a rb25 setup.

stock 2jz are making 800-900hp at wheels safely (a rare few have gone over 1000hp) in the states but remember this is on there dynos which read alot higher (someone mentions 20% higher in some other threads). but u will never see a rb26 survive for long on even 500-600hp at wheels thats for sure.

2jz ftw

i'd go a 2jz in my stagea but its 4wd

are there any differances between the jap spec and the US spec 2jz? i only know the US spec have steel turbine wheels, any other differance (pistons, rods, injectors)?????

[CruiseLiner]

wouldnt have a clue sorry, im only into nissans i have a mate into the toyotas so ive learnt alot off his work.

the 1jz box is actually the r154

2jz yank version has diff turbos, but they are still rather crap and a big single is more worthwhile and i have a funny felling they have different style injectors too, but thats only a guess.

2jz with a gt35/40 or gt40 or even t04z would be something to see

Edited December 19, 2006 by CruiseLiner

[Sicarius123]

dont forget u need a 5 speed box or 6 speed if ya rich, as most 2jz cuts are aristo models and auto.

w58 i think is the 1jz 5 speed box and suitable for the 2jz, they are about 2k and pretty rare to get hold of.

2jz 6 speed is some bullshit price last time i checked and not really worth it over the w58.

u got engine, box, clutch, ecu, turbo (stockies are shit), cooler, piping, engine mounts, exhuast, tailshaft, sump might be an issue?, wiring to factory dash, speedo, and general other bits and pieces. i would go a 2jz in a r33 gts-t anyday if i had the choice between that and doing a rb25 setup.

stock 2jz are making 800-900hp at wheels safely (a rare few have gone over 1000hp) in the states but remember this is on there dynos which read alot higher (someone mentions 20% higher in some other threads). but u will never see a rb26 survive for long on even 500-600hp at wheels thats for sure.

2jz ftw

i'd go a 2jz in my stagea but its 4wd

Not sure about the crossmember in the Skylines, but to put an aristo 2JZ into a Supra, you need the Supra rear mount sump, as the aristo is mid mount.

The R154 is the 1JZ 5spd, and the strongest option out there next to the Getgrag V160. The W58 will break far easier, and is the 7M or 2JZ-GE box.

Also I've been told Aristo's come with slightly larger steel turbo's as opposed to the quicker spooling Supra ceramics.

Also, a 1000rwhp Supra on a dynojet would be roughly an 877rwhp Supra on a Dyno Dynamics.

Dan.

[Sicarius123]

are there any differances between the jap spec and the US spec 2jz? i only know the US spec have steel turbine wheels, any other differance (pistons, rods, injectors)?????

US Supra's have slightly smaller turbo's, but are steel wheel so can handle more boost.

Also they run500cc (i think) low impedence injectors, while the JDM run 440cc high impedence injectors.

One of the cams is also slightly larger in the US spec, but I can't remember whether it is the intake or exhaust.

Also, none of these things would make a difference when you go for a big build, as they'd all be replaced either way.

Dan.

[Gts-t]

Only 1 problem with jz motors, turbos on the wrong side = no good for curcuit racing. Obviously fine for drag cars tho...

If you want 3000ccs in a gtr i think the best way to go about it is building up a a rb30 and if u need over 500hp throw the good bits inside it while ur at it....

If u want 3400ccs get a spacer kit made up for rb30 same as OS do for rb26

I also belive the head design is better in the rb26 from what ive read on here.

That said dollar for dollar the 2J is the winnah! 3000ccs >2600

[EnGaGe]

lol im doing a 2jz, 6 speed trust dog box, and t88 garett version in my R33 gtst

[Sicarius123]

Only 1 problem with jz motors, turbos on the wrong side = no good for curcuit racing. Obviously fine for drag cars tho...

Or you get heat sheilding made up for the brake and clutch master cylinder, and have the exhaust housing, exhaust manifold and dump all HPC coated.

Not exactly hard.

Dan.

[Gts-t]

Yeah that will help...