GTRgeoff Posted August 9, 2007 Share Posted August 9, 2007 John, nothing in particular as far as the actual intended compression ratios. Build it for what you want to get from it. Easier to drive more average power and more responsive but less peak power go hi comp, dyno queen go low comp with peaky massive turbo Mark (Scooby) that should be decent, but my 26 made 260 on the stock computer. Go back for refund or more power. Good luck after run in. Steve the cams and I understand crank angle sensor are different but all else is the same. I see you are racing at the "Bank". Let us know next time you run and I'll round up the boys from the Switch to come watch and ponder just why anyone would be so silly with a 120 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/15420-r33-rb30-conversion/page/271/#findComment-3278612 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FineLine Posted August 9, 2007 Share Posted August 9, 2007 In for sure Geoff, Havnt seen that 120 ynot out their to date. Should be an interesting toy. On the oil pump issue, I went the Jun not for the High volume flow but simply because it is touted as a stronger more reliable pump than the N1. Also did the collar deal as extra insurance. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/15420-r33-rb30-conversion/page/271/#findComment-3278635 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RB120WHY Posted August 9, 2007 Share Posted August 9, 2007 Steve the cams and I understand crank angle sensor are different but all else is the same. I see you are racing at the "Bank". Let us know next time you run and I'll round up the boys from the Switch to come watch and ponder just why anyone would be so silly with a 120 AHAHAHA I sure will Geoff, and thanks... I think my mate is crazy fitting a 2JZ into a HR Holden and expecting to come away from Summernats in one piece. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/15420-r33-rb30-conversion/page/271/#findComment-3278644 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTRgeoff Posted August 9, 2007 Share Posted August 9, 2007 Yep, he'll get a grilling. I recently saw a 20B rotor in an old holden at SelectMaz in Melbourne. Something interesting. Look forward to the invite. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/15420-r33-rb30-conversion/page/271/#findComment-3278667 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAMR33 Posted August 9, 2007 Share Posted August 9, 2007 Yep, he'll get a grilling. I recently saw a 20B rotor in an old holden at SelectMaz in Melbourne. Something interesting. Look forward to the invite. Speaking of rotary's in oldens http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazda_Roadpacer Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/15420-r33-rb30-conversion/page/271/#findComment-3278695 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craved Posted August 9, 2007 Share Posted August 9, 2007 In for crazy transplants latest one we are working on is a 1JZ into a sprinter ... only just makes it in for street engineering. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/15420-r33-rb30-conversion/page/271/#findComment-3278786 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTRgeoff Posted August 9, 2007 Share Posted August 9, 2007 That would be wicked. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/15420-r33-rb30-conversion/page/271/#findComment-3278797 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godzilla33 Posted August 9, 2007 Share Posted August 9, 2007 Anyone got a S2 RB30 block/motor for sale? must be std bore, Brisbane area. Ive managed to stuff the threads in a few of the head studs while tapping out to suit RB26......not cool..... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/15420-r33-rb30-conversion/page/271/#findComment-3278962 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTRgeoff Posted August 9, 2007 Share Posted August 9, 2007 Overdrill, retap and use helicoils to get the right thread, but better and stronger. There is a motor and gearbox on ebay in Warwick for $1 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/15420-r33-rb30-conversion/page/271/#findComment-3278990 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godzilla33 Posted August 9, 2007 Share Posted August 9, 2007 Thanks Geoff, Ive though about using helicoils or time serts, just thought for the pissant price of another block I might just try again. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/15420-r33-rb30-conversion/page/271/#findComment-3278999 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooby Posted August 9, 2007 Share Posted August 9, 2007 (edited) OK here's a question for the airflow gurus, Geoff that means you. The 26/30 will not allow use of the standard airbox in the R32 GTR easily. Obvious choice is to use pods but extra height of the RB30 makes it quite difficult to accomodate pods with any kind of meaningful airbox. I'm thinking of feeding both AFMs by having them draw air from the back of one big arse pod filter, which could be accomodated by cutting a hole in the area immediately below the airbox. The filter area would be ample, and construction of the airbox would be relatively easy. If you look on the SSS Automotive website you'll see that their blue Improved Production car runs this type of system. Any thoughts / ideas on this approach? Edited August 9, 2007 by Scooby Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/15420-r33-rb30-conversion/page/271/#findComment-3279075 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adriano Posted August 9, 2007 Share Posted August 9, 2007 Sounds good, we fit a 4 inch intake 6 1/2 in diam 10 in long K&N pods under there, fitted perfectlybetween the inner guard and the under guard if that makes sense Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/15420-r33-rb30-conversion/page/271/#findComment-3279192 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adriano Posted August 9, 2007 Share Posted August 9, 2007 Does anyone know what the crank endfloat specs are? i just checked mine and its .016mm, which seems a bit tight Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/15420-r33-rb30-conversion/page/271/#findComment-3279196 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTRgeoff Posted August 10, 2007 Share Posted August 10, 2007 I use that location for my air filter but there are problems. When it rains or the road is wet the spray can be taken up, and that sends the AFMs into error as the ECU thinks they are maxing out. The right thing to do then is box it correctly to remove the spray from the NSF tyre from the problem. I'm yet to examine the effects from following closely a car putting up serious spray. Also the location is very dirty due to the tyre proximity. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/15420-r33-rb30-conversion/page/271/#findComment-3280079 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooby Posted August 10, 2007 Share Posted August 10, 2007 I use that location for my air filter but there are problems.When it rains or the road is wet the spray can be taken up, and that sends the AFMs into error as the ECU thinks they are maxing out. The right thing to do then is box it correctly to remove the spray from the NSF tyre from the problem. I'm yet to examine the effects from following closely a car putting up serious spray. Also the location is very dirty due to the tyre proximity. Due to the plastic wheel arch guard I'm not sure what the problem would be from NSF tyre? I can see that on the 32 GTR there would be an issue with spray coming in through the vent in the front bar but I'd counter that by making a shield. Any thoughts on feeding the two AFMs from one big filter? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/15420-r33-rb30-conversion/page/271/#findComment-3280304 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTRgeoff Posted August 10, 2007 Share Posted August 10, 2007 No problem with that at all. Unless there is a serious restriction on either intake path the action of the turbos will pretty much equalise intake, as well the afm signals are averaged in the PFC. That guard liner is about as secure as a leaf in a hurricane. Both mine on the track car ripped out at about 200kmh. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/15420-r33-rb30-conversion/page/271/#findComment-3280425 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooby Posted August 10, 2007 Share Posted August 10, 2007 No problem with that at all. Unless there is a serious restriction on either intake path the action of the turbos will pretty much equalise intake, as well the afm signals are averaged in the PFC.That guard liner is about as secure as a leaf in a hurricane. Both mine on the track car ripped out at about 200kmh. Thanks Geoff Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/15420-r33-rb30-conversion/page/271/#findComment-3280474 Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver gts-t Posted August 13, 2007 Share Posted August 13, 2007 Do any of the greddy range of plenums work on a rb25de from r32? im getting some conflicting information.. the runner seem like a hybrid rb25/20 design Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/15420-r33-rb30-conversion/page/271/#findComment-3284944 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubes Posted August 13, 2007 Share Posted August 13, 2007 Nope. The R32 Rb25DE ports are the same design/shape as the rb20det ports but larger. The rb25de ports look more like 2 cylinders side by side where as the r33 rb25 ports are more squareish. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/15420-r33-rb30-conversion/page/271/#findComment-3284952 Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver gts-t Posted August 13, 2007 Share Posted August 13, 2007 *sigh* gotta get my hands on some piston damn work and study holding me up.. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/15420-r33-rb30-conversion/page/271/#findComment-3284963 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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