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Just a thought.... can you reproduce a product if the parent company is dead and gone? copyright wise ec?

re-proing PFC's in china would be a relatively easy and cheap thing to do....... food for though.

They probably would get 1 in a 100 that actually work like everything else they try re producing.. they screwed the market with all their copied crap poor apexi :ninja:

As previously mentioned, that's what you get for not supporting newer models. You can't expect to thrive if you're stuck in the past.

huum,

I think Apexi was on the verge of going down quite some time already and for a company going under, chances are they don't have the resources to come up with new products, just sitting ducks.

weird thing is, Apexis products are quite popular, the power extreme exhausts, the pod filters among the best. Wonder what had gone wrong

I already sold my pfc at this point, switching to wolf V500. When the company goes bankrupt, you loose all the support, for eg. warranty is void, can't repair or get the software to support the ECU. It'll circulate some time but eventually will die out.

Just a thought.... can you reproduce a product if the parent company is dead and gone? copyright wise ec?

re-proing PFC's in china would be a relatively easy and cheap thing to do....... food for though.

I think you still have to buy the right, the same as those marvel comics movies, Marvel went under, but for the movies still require copyright stuff..

I already sold my pfc at this point, switching to wolf V500. When the company goes bankrupt, you loose all the support, for eg. warranty is void, can't repair or get the software to support the ECU. It'll circulate some time but eventually will die out.

unless you bought the PFC locally from access you have no warranty anyway....... any thing grey imported has no legal warranty obligation to the manufacturer.....

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They probably would get 1 in a 100 that actually work like everything else they try re producing.. they screwed the market with all their copied crap poor apexi :laugh:

haha what about products like JUN, EAGLE , SCAT, BUDDY CLUB, KEI OFFICE etc that get product made there.......

Will be interesting for you guys..

Wonder where the IP will go in relation to their products. Look at companies like Commodore (put you hand up all those commodore 64 owners out there). That went bankrupt, and the IP for the products has been passing around from company to company for years now. DELL even owned it at one stage. They all promised to GPL the products that they now 'owned' but nothing ever came of it.

Good luck.

Somebody make a power fc copy dammit..

and make it cheaper around 500 mark so i can afford it..

Doesnt matter if its called CHEAP POWER FC COPY.. hahah

ahh just joking..

sucks they bankrupt..

But i have a feeling another company will pick up and make better products..

As previously mentioned, that's what you get for not supporting newer models. You can't expect to thrive if you're stuck in the past.

not true at all. Apex International performance products have been very successful. their downfall as a company has come about because of poor management decisions. they got into trouble in 2004 after having diversified into new areas/markets and got burnt badly. They then re-grouped as Apexi in late 2004 (2 years ago). In 2004 they stopped producing Apexi intercoolers (and apparantly a chinese company did buy the rights to keep making them, but I have never seen anything of it, possibly due to increased competition amongst chinese cooler manufacturers), they then continued their performance arm as Apexi (by Apexera) but also went heavily into navi systems and alarms etc. From what people tell me this was also not so successful. I would say on the back of that failure they have now become insolvent. Let's hope they have a massive fire sale! RIP Apexi. We will always remember your AVCR, Power Intake and Power FC all of which were amazing products when released and still managed to sell well even years after they were first produced. :laugh:

haha what about products like JUN, EAGLE , SCAT, BUDDY CLUB, KEI OFFICE etc that get product made there.......

Yea i understand what your saying, but i'm refering to copies... a copy is a copy its not the real deal

Another performance company such as trust of HKS would do well to buy them out or at least aquire the product designs. Apexi's products were prob the best on the market

if HKS continues they way it is it may well be the next on the table......(fair few years off, but!) blame the USA for that though.

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