Apexi Power Fc, What Else Compares In Price And Performance?

[madaz R33]

I dont pretend to be mr Tech head when it comes to skylines and add ons/components/computers, but from what i have read on the sau forums the apexi FC is one of the most commonly used and easily tuneable computer out there for skylines, i was just thinking of buying one of these units for my car when i discovered they are discontinued... the problem is that im very limited to who can actually tune the fc/car as i live on the north west coast of tassie, so i set my mind on a apexi fc, but now... well we all know whats happened now! can anyone make some suggestions for some other engine management systems without paying an asaloute s#@t load??? and some places to get them tuned in the north of tassie? cheers

[paulr33]

given the other options and cost you may find the pfc still the best and cheapest overall. im talking buying price and tuning costs

[JustinP]

Bite the bullet and pay what you need to in order to get one. Still will work out cheaper than many other options, especially as you are in a remote area with few tuning options.

I just brought on for my R34, brand new one for $1400. A lot of money compared to six months ago, but whats a few hundred dollars in the scheme of things?

[madaz R33]

cheers guys preety much thinkin along the same lines... but the last one avalible i can locate is looking like costing me a bit over $1700... ouch, but i guess if you want the best all round/performance/tuning you gotta pay id settle for a second hand one , but thats wishful thinkin, unlees someone knows where i can get my hands on one somewhere else?????

Edited February 12, 2007 by madaz R33

[JustinP]

cheers guys preety much thinkin along the same lines... but the last one avalible i can locate is looking like costing me a bit over $1700... ouch, but i guess if you want the best all round/performance/tuning you gotta pay id settle for a second hand one , but thats wishful thinkin, unlees someone knows where i can get my hands on one somewhere else?????

Check Ebay, there was another brand new R33 one on there going for around $1400.

[madaz R33]

Check Ebay, there was another brand new R33 one on there going for around $1400.

thats where im buying it from, its at $1400 i figured it may go up to $1700

[JustinP]

thats where im buying it from, its at $1400 i figured it may go up to $1700

hehe good luck with it. those people selling are sneaky buggers, the one before mine (another 34 one) was starting at $1200 with a buy it now at $1300. Then mine was starting at $1350, with a buy it now at $1400 (which is what I payed). Now they are selling this R33 one, starting at $1350, with no buy it now price... Hopefully it wont go as high as $1700 for you though!

[markimak]

im seeing second hand ones go for 700-800 even less for the SR20 brothers

[paulr33]

yeah thats because the sr20 model is still made

the ecr33 and er34 model are no longer made

i mean there are still thousands of units in circulation, just no new units

[Beer Baron]

paul, at the moment apexi are not producing anything, or filling any new order so no PFC models are still being sold new *except for what is in stock in peoples shops.

[paulr33]

oh, i wasnt aware of that my bad

[tmc_2]

Apexi is not officially bankrupt.

Any one thought of the link ecu direct replacement? there around 1k from slide.

[WogsRus]

an ecu from japan from Central 20, cost $200, power 207rwKs on standard turbo at 12 psi, mad midrange and all good.

[paulr33]

whilst a remap is great, it hardly helps if you want to adjust any of the settings let alone monitor the engine and take decisive action

[STATUS]

I do alot of EMANAGE ULTIMATES with great success (in total about 50/50 with PFC) the emanage is let down by poor workshops and installations. If you buy a plug and play harness it works out easier as you dont have to rely on the workshop to wire it up..... i spend a lot of my time bouncing from workshop to work shop inmelb trouble shooting emanage for TRUST and 99% of the time it is poor instalation.... frustrating to say the least.

Edited February 13, 2007 by URAS

[DivHunter]

What's the upper limit on the Ultimate?

[STATUS]

What's the upper limit on the Ultimate?

depends really on the users knowledge of the system and the car, i have tuned a few 300rwkw plus ultimates. My missus runs one in her RB26 powered S13 (soon to sport twin T517Z) so again it will be a mid 300rwkw car.

[Beer Baron]

Apexi is not officially bankrupt.

thanks for correcting something I didn't say. read it again. what I said was:

"at the moment apexi are not producing anything, or filling any new orders so no PFC models are still being sold new *except for what is in stock in peoples shops."

it's quite possible they will re-commence production and sales of some (or even all) apexi products in the future either after a bail out or buy out. but as I've now said twice. at the moment they are not producing anything, or selling anything. so unless you can get a hold of a shop that has current stock you wont be buying a new one for the moment, and you may, or may not be buying them in the future either. that is anyones guess right now.

[32vspecII]

this is from nengun

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We have heard preliminary reports of Apexera, the parent company of Apexi, declaring bankruptcy here in Japan. The reports suggest Apexera is seeking government assistance but still operating as normal, with the divisions other than Apexi being the largest contributing factor.

We will continue to offer all Apexi products for sale as we have confirmation of availability at the current stage and do not expect this to change in the short term. As with all of our products, we will keep the website updated with any changes in availability, so there is no need to send additional enquiries.

With large world wide support, including Apexi USA, we do not anticipate there will be any long term impact into the availability of Apexi products.

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anyone know anything concrete to the contrary

there are a couple of Pfcs on ebay for 1400

there still good value even at that price

[SirRacer]

Im a huge power fc fan but i think on this forum in particular they are a bit over rated. I have one in another car and think its great however.

Im going for a LINK G3 with R33 adaptor loom and wasted spark setup. The downside is they only run 4 coil drivers so unless you want to wasted spark your coils you need to run a wasted spark setup. The stock coils suck anyway so replacing them never hurts. You get lower temps, better life, and more spark so win win!!

1269 AUD including a loom adaptor. Add in a wasted spark setup (if you want to) for 200 and you have an incredibly good computer for 1469. More mapping points, dual fuel and ignition maps. Take into account the fact you also dont need an AFM and its a great deal.

www.linkecu.com