Rebirthed Gtr?

[aphid]

So I've been having a look at a nice GTR lately at a pretty well known Brisbane import dealership.. Anyway I went back today and going over the usualy things, I checked the VIN Plate (As in the Japanese one that sits at the top of the drivers side fire wall) and low and behold, it reads ER33 RB25DE.. I thought for a moment how stupid of myself to not realise that it was a conversion and pointed it out to the salesman who was with me, and looking a bit flustered he told me that yes, it was infact a conversion. Looking over the car to see how complete this apparent conversion was in all the tell tail spots (bit's of intereior, weld marks where the rear quaters have been attatched, aluminium panels) and realised that this wasn't a conversion, it was the real deal. Going back to the engine bay, I noticed that the screws that hold the Japanese vin plate to the wall, the ones that are meant to be tamper proof were overly loose.. The Australian Vin plate had been riveted into the firewall partially covering the original VIN that is engraved into the firewall so it couldn't be read properly. The story that the dealer gave me was that it was a used trade in that some chic had bought back in 2000, and she'd traded it in for an r34 GT-t, and they had no idea about the conversion. Given the fact that this guy knew his way around the car very well, there was no way that he could've not noticed that it wasn't a conversion, which leads me to two possible scenarios. Either the car has been stolen in Australia and rebirthed using a cheap possibly wrecked but not listed as being wrecked r33 GTS and used the VIN and Australian VIN plates to rebirth it, or it has been imported dogily, perhaps as a race only then had the plates put on it and sold as a road registered GTR to a massive profit of whoever had imported it in the first place.. Let me hear your oppinions on the situation

Cheers guys,

Mark.

[Spook's_Skyline]

sounds extremely dodgy either way

[phatboi2010]

the sales man didn't know what he was doing then?? how much did he want to sell it for? if it was an NA the the 4 stud wheels would give it away, lol were you able to get the original vin number? do that Nissan Fast thing...

[aphid]

it was a a real gtr, he was claiming that it was a conversion as i picked up on the vin plates saying that it was an r33 gts.. the vin plates don't match the car you don't need fast to know that a vin plate that says er33 rb25de doesn't belong to a GTR i'll check it out on fast later and post up the details when i can be bothered getting my laptop out of my car

the sales man didn't know what he was doing then?? how much did he want to sell it for? if it was an NA the the 4 stud wheels would give it away, lol were you able to get the original vin number? do that Nissan Fast thing...

[phatboi2010]

it was a a real gtr, he was claiming that it was a conversion as i picked up on the vin plates saying that it was an r33 gts.. the vin plates don't match the car you don't need fast to know that a vin plate that says er33 rb25de doesn't belong to a GTR i'll check it out on fast later and post up the details when i can be bothered getting my laptop out of my car

lol i meant to see if it was stolen or just an unregistable one....

so whats a R33 GTS4(?)with an RB worth in a yard now days? did he try to sell you it cheaper?

[D-limo]

Very suss... Bet next time you make contact with them about the car it will be 'sold' or the like..

No harm in posting the name of the dealership??

[Mushroom]

report it to qld transport that way dodgy people go out of bussiness and some other poor sucker doesn't get taken for a ride

[Jdfnq]

report it to qld transport that way dodgy people go out of bussiness and some other poor sucker doesn't get taken for a ride

Absolutly. Sounds very suss.....

Bust the caryard if it turns out to be stolen/rebirthed.....

Otherwise some poor sucker is going to buy it not knowing the real deal....

[R33S2]

and more and more will pour through the place.

[Mud]

Send it to Today Tonight or ACA, they love that sh!t !

[FineLine]

Send it to Today Tonight or ACA, they love that sh!t !

Is that wise. I would have thought the less dodgy shit that got exposed on grey imports the better.

It just gives the authoritys another stick to beat the whole grey scene with.

[Nismo_Boy]

Paragraphs weren’t you thing in school I guess?

Sounds very dodgy, as mentioned try and make an example and talk to ACA or something.

A few years ago there was a black R32 Gts4, re birthed and re vinned with a GTR and all its running gear, yeh its got GTR vins, yeh its got all the GTR gear, it still only came out of the factory as a Gts4 though

[Chris Rogers]

is this yard on the mile?

VERY CURIOUS.

[madr32]

yep- where's the yard? general, cause some poor dude will get stung.

Unless the dealer is given a chance to explain and gives a real, evidenced, proof of history- otherwise all should be encouraged to avoid the joint

[aphid]

PARAGRAPHSWERENEVERMYTHINGBUTATLEASTIUSEDPUNCTUATION!!!!ONE!ONE!!!

If I gave away the suburb in which the dealership was located it would become pretty obviouse, save to say I've never actually heard anything dodgy about this place before (although arn't all dealers dodgy ), anyway I'll suss it all completly when I get the chance just to make sure I'm not going to give somebody a bad name when they don't deserve it.. as for listing the actual name of the dealer I think it would last about 10 seconds before one of the mods decided to edit it out.

[frankxinyu]

sounds dodgy to me.

but i am used to hearing this kinda of shit in jap performace car scene.

[Oblivion]

Send it to Today Tonight or ACA, they love that sh!t !

Yeah but then they will add something about all the jap cars are going to be like that.