The Xenon Unit

[ssshonky]

yeah the lights on our stagea after compliancing suck bawlz!

I was under the impression that the ballasts ran off the 100v line am I wrong

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[chook]

yeah the lights on our stagea after compliancing suck bawlz!

I was under the impression that the ballasts ran off the 100v line am I wrong

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12v in as normal, and the ballasts transforms this to 80-90 volts

[Appealing]

When I had mine complied, I asked if they could to be left as is. I chose a complier that agreed.... another said "no we have to put the globes on a grinder and destroy them".... What a crock of crap!!

After getting the stag and looking carefully at the lights, I would say that there isn't any real reason not to allow them. I have also sat in front of the car and didn't find them any brighter looking at them than Halogens. However (and this may not seem to fit), they are incredibly bright when driving, with an amazing spread of light. The high beams were yellow in comparison. I changed these to Navara Arctic Blue Halogens (4000 deg K) the high beams just about match the Xenons and cost only about $38 each. The higher temperature is whiter, but is shifted towards the blue end of the spectrum. Everything in reach of the lights looks whiter, especially road markings and signs. The light is closer to daylight. Works the same way as your Mum washing your jocks in Persil.... you get whiter whites, (but they are actually bluer)!! haha

The thing that I like about the lights is the "cut-off" that they have. They don't go near anyones mirror or on-coming traffic.

[mitchy_]

the xenons in your stagea ARE NOT self leveling, and that is what makes them illegal. (if you were to load up the back of your car, your lights would aim upwards more, and shine in peoples eyes, rather than re-leveling to the correct height)

and by law, RAWS workshops ARE supposed to destroy the xenon units.

[mike40sydney]

if you load up the madwagon just adjust the headlight height on the dash switch simple.beats me that they dont alow the zennon then they put in halogen globes that are as dave said the equiv to the old 6 volt lights in the beetle.i mean its not farkin safe and i stuffed if id pass them for rego like that if i was doing a blue slip or even a roadworthy

[Appealing]

the xenons in your stagea ARE NOT self leveling, and that is what makes them illegal. (if you were to load up the back of your car, your lights would aim upwards more, and shine in peoples eyes, rather than re-leveling to the correct height)

and by law, RAWS workshops ARE supposed to destroy the xenon units.

Sorry, my main point was that they don't have to destroy them..... they can send them on with the car, even if they do remove them. My complier said...'I knew that you were going to re-fit them so I saved you the trouble and left them in"....suits me. I know the technicalities of the self levelling stuff, but when you are allowed to go and fit 4000K lights to anything, it doesn't really make sense. Most of the dazzling of lights on the road are due to poor adjustment not to brightness.

[chook]

I agree, my previous halogen lights were much more dangerous, uneven bright spots and poor visibility because the housings were not designed for that bulb. A lot of work goes into shaping a housing for a particular bulb to get the light spread correct. The factory Stagea HIDs give a very even light which cuts off nicely at the top for oncoming traffic, which the halogens dont. I have never been flashed at, nor seen any discomfort when coming over a hill crest, i dont believe it is an issue for oncoming traffic because of the eveness of the light. I feel much safer with the HIDS and the authorities need to revisit this.

[3intheBack]

Just to add a bit to my crapping's on previously in this thread...

...a while ago I was buying some brighter bulbs for the high beam on the S2 and found out that the guy selling me the bulbs used to do compliancing on Stagea's. He said the reason that they where illegal was not to do with the self levelling issue. I cant remember his exact words, but it goes something like this...

..it has to do with distance the light travels before becoming too dim. Xenons are very bright for a distance then the luminesance (sic) drops off dramatically. Whereas the halogen light, while duller in brightness, the light intensity dims more gradually.

The issue with Xenon's is not the distance the light travels or the brightness, rather, it is the rate at which it drops off at a certain distance and this, I assume, would be to do with its wavelength.

I hope that makes sense. If you go to any auto retailer they will have sales charts showing the different light intensities and the distance the lights travel, so you can compare the different bulbs depending on your application.

[Lil_Bobby_260]

Has anyone had their car complianced in Bris and had them let you keep them? My car will be making its way over shortly, and would love to at least have the option there. Its a feature we pay for so i would like to have it. The risk of being picked up for using them is one im willing to take....

[3intheBack]

Try skyline imports - they're in Allgas St Slacks Creek

[jippa]

just revisiting this thread to see if anyone in wa has reinstalled their xenons. just wanting to take a look as im going to reinstal mine. also if anyone has pics to help me out would be good

[Brycey]

ill take some pictures tomorrow of my headlights

[jippa]

thanks mate. did u reinstall them urself

[Brycey]

nah mate, i just stripped down my front end so im able to get a really good look at the headlight enclosure and how its all configured. the company that complied my stag kept the Xenon unit and wires intact, they just tucked everything (the wires) inside the enclosure out of sight and wired up the non-xenon globe.

i know that Mike40Sydney got his stag complied at the same workshop as mine, and they did identical work regarding the headlights. he switched his back to xenon in 15 minutes but i never got around to it while my headlights were in the car

Edited November 26, 2007 by Brycey

[Yunis]

Mike is the man to ask about the Xenons... He re-installed mine for me over the weekend and did a bloody awsome job!

[ssshonky]

a how to etc would be great!

also - all depends on how the workshop did it .. if they tucked everything up nice and tidy like described above its going to be a LOT easier

[Brycey]

here are some pictures i just took.. this is behind the drivers side main headlight body (Stagea S2)

starting from the left..

- the box screwed onto the side of the headlight is the xenon unit, next on the right is..

- the 3 pin plug is the headlight leveler, next on the right is..

- out of the next 2 smaller plugs - one is the parker light and I’m not sure what the other one is, will take a look.. next on the right is..

- the lid to the main headlight enclosure.. inside this area is where you should hopefully find your Xenon D2R cable!

you will also need the Xenon Bulbs and this bracket that looks like it would hold everything into place

so before you do anything, make sure you still have the xenon unit still attached to the side of your headlight enclosure! after that, check for the D2R harness and socket which should be hidden away nicely inside the enclosure.. if its still al there then it would just be a matter of putting it all back together how it came out of the factory! sorry that i cant do a more detailed write up.. never got the chance to do this myself while it was still in the car

Edited November 27, 2007 by Brycey

[DaveB]

here are some pictures i just took.. this is behind the drivers side main headlight body (Stagea S2)

starting from the left..

- the box screwed onto the side of the headlight is the xenon unit, next on the right is..

- the 3 pin plug is the headlight leveler, next on the right is..

- out of the next 2 smaller plugs - one is the parker light and I’m not sure what the other one is, will take a look.. next on the right is..

- the lid to the main headlight enclosure.. inside this area is where you should hopefully find your Xenon D2R cable!

so before you do anything, make sure you still have the xenon unit still attached to the side of your headlight enclosure! after that, check for the D2R harness and socket which should be hidden away nicely inside the enclosure.. if its still al there then it would just be a matter of putting it all back together how it came out of the factory! sorry that i cant do a more detailed write up.. never got the chance to do this myself while it was still in the car

That's awesome stuff Brycey! My S2 is due on a boat anytime, and I REALLY want to keep my xenons... just to actually see the unit is a big advantage!

Edited November 27, 2007 by DaveB

[jippa]

good info . thanks

[petrolfix]

the xenons in your stagea ARE NOT self leveling, and that is what makes them illegal. (if you were to load up the back of your car, your lights would aim upwards more, and shine in peoples eyes, rather than re-leveling to the correct height)

and by law, RAWS workshops ARE supposed to destroy the xenon units.

who cares really. i am sick of every one else with hdi lights driving on these rough roads up here and it looks like someone is constanly flashing you. self levvelling or not it's a load of bull and happens anyway. Iam putting them back in.

Just got off the phone to my mate the auto electrician said he is the only person in newcastle installing the hdi phillps replacement lights for "normal cars" (they replace hallongon's) and would be glad to hook my new lights back in. he dosn't see a problem with them they just white'n the road more not actuly emit a more powerfull blinding light.