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Nrma ,told Me Things Are Illegal! Wtf! Is Going On ?

DREW32

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DREW32

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Hi there members and guests ,was supposed to receive an NRMA inspection on my r32 on tues (as i have someone interested in buying it ) and was told it couldnt go onto their premises if so they were under obligation to notify the authorities about my car ,thay informed me that my FMIC was illegal and needed an engineer's cert. also the 18'' rims were to big for the car ,plus the ride hieght had been changed , the induction system wouldnt meet EPA laws and the exhaust wouldnt pass and last but not least which i just couldnt believe the turbo timer !!! WTF !! whats going on the car passed last year with all these mods and doesnt look that bad i thought ,doesnt have a body kit or things having off it ,not very loud so i was just gobsmacked couldnt believe what came out of this nobs mouth didnt bother me that much just doing what was asked by a potential skyline owner i had to go through that shit and least of all it was done at a ford dealership (i hate fords with a passion) so i thought ok grab my keys and went on my merry way , in the meantime they contacted the buyer and told him the same thing ,since then the buyer has recontacted me and is still extremely interested in the car so hopefully it wasnt all in vane ,,,,,also NRMA apparently are not doing inspections on any vehicle in australia anymore from tues this week so guess you have to take your car somewhere else for a overall check

Lunatikk Rising Star

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nrma wont insure a skyline anyway will they...

also a turbo timer i can understand as in a way they are a device that can help thefts

How so??

If the Turbo Timer is installed properly & interacts with the alarm as it should, even if the car is running it will/should shut-down & immobilise the car if anyone breaks in & in turn triggers the alarm with the car running on the timer.

mrgilly Proficient

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I am happy to be corrected if wrong but I was of the understanding turbo timers are illegal to use as a vehicle isn't to run without having the keys in the ignition and the driver in control...

Also, not sure about NRMA but I have heaps of respect for the RACQ - their knowledge of imports & highly modified vehicles is obviously not great (as it's not their primary market) but in general they are a great resource for verifying condition of used cars for typical motorists. They won't insure me though :D :S even though JC give me Rating 1...

32vspecII Mentor

32vspecII

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I am happy to be corrected if wrong but I was of the understanding turbo timers are illegal to use as a vehicle isn't to run without having the keys in the ignition and the driver in control...

technically adr 25 says :

"ADR 25 requires that the normal function of the engine only occurs when the ignition lock is in the engine on position"

however clause 5.1 says :

"when the protective device has been activated (locked) it is not possible to activate the motive power (start the engine) by normal means"..

so technically if the engine cant be started once the turbo timer has finished its legal

the vaugeness of this adr has some states to adopt a illegal pov and others not to . here in wa TT is fine . personally i think be the letter of the law they are legal as once the turbo timer has activated it is not possible to start the engine again

Devils_Advocate21 Mentor

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And about the wheels thats bs as well within 2 sizes of factory stock is the usual law down there, plus FMIC pends where you are the 1 intack modification applies, Ride height as lond as it is the standard 100 mm from the lowest point usually applys throughout most states ie the coke can test turbo timer, iffy one there i was assumuing that as long as you sort of dont walk away from your car ie must be 20meters max from your car if tt is running, Exhaust should pass as long as it has a cat and meets the dB limit in most cases Induction well pends if the 1 intake mod applies where u are or not, but if it doesnt and its a pod get it shielded and also hard mounted to the chasis that will help in most cases there if 1 intake mod applies keep the FMIC just get standard airbox, you can get good panel filters n e way.

Plus the NRMA reporting to the police, tell them there stupid, there not the law, the DOT can report in all cases not the NRMA "Insurance agency" (Unless someone can confirm and prove otherwise)

Last but not least I wouldnt bother even looking at NRMA RACV RACQ pending where you are to look at any import as there all wanks. Coz its not your common ford/holden family car

Have a good day, If you worried about the "emmissions" a quick stroll to your local exhaust place can do both usually emmissions and dB testing on the exhaust

Cheers A

gtt23 Enthusiast

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I am happy to be corrected if wrong but I was of the understanding turbo timers are illegal to use as a vehicle isn't to run without having the keys in the ignition and the driver in control...

ahh but does this extend to within ur home or a private premise?

(as in your garage/carport or place of business is not a public place)

i wouldn't think so.

just an opinion ...

well my opinion anyway :D

DREW32 Enthusiast

DREW32

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I am happy to be corrected if wrong but I was of the understanding turbo timers are illegal to use as a vehicle isn't to run without having the keys in the ignition and the driver in control...

Also, not sure about NRMA but I have heaps of respect for the RACQ - their knowledge of imports & highly modified vehicles is obviously not great (as it's not their primary market) but in general they are a great resource for verifying condition of used cars for typical motorists. They won't insure me though :rofl: :S even though JC give me Rating 1...

RACQ is NRMA as far as ive been lead to believe

mad082 Grand Master

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turbo times are also illegal for the fact that if your car is running, and locked, and somehow gets bumped into gear (for example an auto not quite in park properly) you have a runaway car.

and it is illegal to leave your car running and be more than 2m away from it.

the fmic may be illegal if the reinforcement bar had been altered to fit it in.

the car may not be loud by your standards, but the legal sound level is pretty quiet.

mrgilly Proficient

mrgilly

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RACQ is NRMA as far as ive been lead to believe
You've been misled. I worked for RACQ Info Services Dept and we were not affiliated with NRMA in any way except for providing reciprocal road service to members of other car clubs while they were in QLD (same for RACV, RACT etc)
jeffworld2 Veteran

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if your in a serious collision and there is fuel or oil pissing out everywhere, or even if the radiator is busted and you've lost all your water... common sense would suggest you kill the ignition before you:

1: damage the engine

2: burst into flames or explode

pull the key out, but the timer kicks in and your dead

Adriano Grand Master

Adriano

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Any qualified mechanic with an rta Authority is meant to report any defective vehicles to the rta, you actually aren't meant to release the vehicle back to the customer, it just doesn't happen because we would spend our lives fighting with customers

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