22nd Of June - 3 Of July

[HEKT1C]

i got my car 22nd of june, impounded on 3rd of july for 'street racing' just because i droped it from 5th to 3rd dosnt meen i was raceing ffs, 48 hour impound 408$ to bail + i go to court in like 5 months.. they did not get a speed reading because they didnt have a radar gun (i think thats a 1st) so i think thats a good thing for me. hmmm any1 gimi some info on my rights like when i go to court? like because they cant prove i was speeding or dont know how fast i was going, i wont loose my licence true? and plz hold back the flaming coped it hard enough

[R31Nismoid]

What other information is there?

Just down changing is not cause for street racing, and im quietly confident there will be information withheld in your post.

If you think you were in the right, get a lawyer to be honest.

The Police are recognised as estimators of speed. So they dont have to have a radar on them. So its not a first, been around for a long time.

[HEKT1C]

well they were trying to get me to say that i was going 100, they asked me how fast i was going and i said i wasnt sure , i was concerntrating upfront and not my speed, n she was like make a estimate, i said i couldnt say because i realy didnt know, n shes like oh would it be possible that you were doing 100? n i said its possible i was doing 70 80 90 i dont know i dont know i just droped gears for a bit, :$ it was in a 60 zone so yer f**ked... i droped from 4tgh to 3rd not 5th - 3rd soz

[R31Nismoid]

So you admitted to the Police you were over but you were unsure?

I knew there was more to it

You need a lawyer, because admitting you were over, and 90 was possible, its fair game for them.

You cooked your own goose in this instance.

Live and learn

[HEKT1C]

they wernt even trafic police either, ahh well your right i got to cop it, made a mistake.... i should of said f**k you show me the radar n burnt his eyelids out with a cigie and booted of, i meen they were in werribee like there isnt drug dealers around there is there (being sarcastic) but hey lets do something fun and guess the speed that p platers going and then we can take his car.

ahh well ill get over it

thanks for the input

[R33GOD]

bad luck bro. track days for u from now on

[R31Nismoid]

1) They dont need to be Traffic Police

2) Again, like i said, they dont need to show you a radar.

Being 30+ over, nothing to be done

[cheez]

if u request radar they have to show you. thats law. if they cant show you evidence of speed then they cant fine you. but if u said u were unsure then ur done for. you should have said i was doing 60.

[some_cs_student]

if u request radar they have to show you. thats law. if they cant show you evidence of speed then they cant fine you. but if u said u were unsure then ur done for. you should have said i was doing 60.

I must disagree with the radar point, according to:

http://www.trafficlaw.com.au/speeding.fines.html

Its etiquette not the law that they will show you the radar.

As R31Nismoid said, you have already admitted to do something wrong, so its going to be hard now

Read the above site, its a stickie from somewhere on this site, has lots of good information.

Regards,

Gareth

[HEKT1C]

but they dont know how much to dick me for lets say i was going 70kms?? how are they to decide what speed i was going? and they need to know dont they? i got 5 points baby, but i dont want 30km + cus yer i hate trains lol..

[Bass Junky]

Why did you drop from 4th to 3rd again?

[R31Nismoid]

if u request radar they have to show you. thats law.

Someone beat me to it. But you are infact incorrect with that statement.

Be careful when saying something is law, misleading info like that isnt nice to people in need of advice

but they dont know how much to dick me for lets say i was going 70kms?? how are they to decide what speed i was going? and they need to know dont they? i got 5 points baby, but i dont want 30km + cus yer i hate trains lol..

Please read my post.

You said upto 90, so they have gone with 100. If you dont know how fast (already admitted to possibly 90), and they estimate 100, its as simple as tough titties.

Nothing wrong with that as a bit of bargaining will go on before the appearance possible and it might be moved to 90 in a 60 rather than 100.

Either way, by your posts you still havent accepted you've done something wrong.

I hope they pin you for 40 over. Might teach you a lesson.

[Kozeyekan]

Actually, you could be in deeper shit that you realise.

Unless I'm wrong (which is a possibility) the R33 GTS-t is banned for P platers, the R32 is OK, but the R33 violates the power to weight ratio regulations.

You're ID says you drive an R33, and later on you mention P Plates.

If this is the case, you could get a further fine, and they'll probably try to force you to sell the car, or at least suspend registration.

Look, I know a lot of us on this forum probably sound like old farts, and well some of us are, but for f**ks sake, keep it on the track.

When guys like you drive 30+ over the limit in skylines, it means they target ALL skylines. This means that when I drive through a breatho, or late at night, the cops are more likely to pull over people doing nothing wrong because in their experiance, Skyline drivers are more prone to speeding and other shit.

So:

1) Get a CAMS license. It's cheaper than a speeding fine, and a lot more fun.

2) Pull your head in. Seriously. I love to push the go fast pedal too, but keep it off the public roads. There is so much that can happen that it's stupid to assume you'll be OK. Yes, speed limits are sometimes un-necessarily low, but that's just the way it is. ignoring them is simply stupid, especially in a 60 zone. If you were doing 130 in a 100 zone on the sydney - dubbo highway (i.e. dead straight, no wildlife or bushes, etc.) then that's careless. Doing it in front of homes is just stupid.

3) Do some advanced training. SAU has some great driver training courses that they can recommend and organise a few times a year. Learn to drift, corner and i think there's even one for driving on two wheels. Have crack, and bring friends.

4) stop driving my premiums up. I gotta save up for a high flow.

5) Wear the fine. You seem like you already know that you cocked up, and you've accepted it. This is a good attitude. It's always a temptation to give it a squirt, but you gotta keep in mind that it really is easy to hit something (say a cat) running across the road, which can then put you into a telepole, and into hospital.

I'm sure you know all this already, but just read over it a second time, then see what you want to do.

End.

[eMsta]

jasons fked....

[INASNT]

I had a similiar type situation a few years ago when I had my R33 where the cops 'estimated' my speed by following behind me and matching my speed, and I was to loose my license for 1 year.

It was BS on the part of the cops of the speed they 'estimated' and 'matched' so i contested it and took it to court. Before the court date I got all the details from where to where they followed and matched my speed etc. A simply calculation of acceleration and velocity from the intersections they said they matched my speed proved that only way they could accelerate and match my apparent speed in the distance between the intersections was if they were in a something like a formula 1 car, where they were driving a VY executive.

So me and my lawyer met with the cops at the court before the start of the hearing and showed them the evidence. They realised I wasent Joe Bloggs who was gonna accept their BS so they dropped my apparent speed down to where I got away with alot less license loss and fine.

Its quite easy to prove wrong the cops 'estimate' of speeds if you know what your doing.

[NickR33]

man don't they have enough cameras and other crap to catch you... you have the right NOT to incriminate yourself so if they can't get you fair and square and have to ask you how fast you were going you say 60km/h or whatever the limit is... if you are unsure of what the limit is just say 50km/h... even if the limit in that area is 70 or 100 when you say 50 they will get the message that your not going to incriminate yourself... they will then need to provide evidence or let you go...

ps. this may just annoy them to the point of trying to get you for other stuff like defects etc... just don't do their work for them!

[adznight]

I'm curious to know why you dropped it form 5th to 3rd and why they'd class that as "street racing". Was there other cars around with you? Was there drags nearby? I don't think police just pull over drivers and claim they were street racing for no reason. Don't get me wrong, the Police to victimize but generally thats just defects and "standard checks" as they call them.

[adznight]

Actually, you could be in deeper shit that you realise.

Unless I'm wrong (which is a possibility) the R33 GTS-t is banned for P platers, the R32 is OK, but the R33 violates the power to weight ratio regulations.

You're ID says you drive an R33, and later on you mention P Plates.

If this is the case, you could get a further fine, and they'll probably try to force you to sell the car, or at least suspend registration.

Look, I know a lot of us on this forum probably sound like old farts, and well some of us are, but for f**ks sake, keep it on the track.

When guys like you drive 30+ over the limit in skylines, it means they target ALL skylines. This means that when I drive through a breatho, or late at night, the cops are more likely to pull over people doing nothing wrong because in their experiance, Skyline drivers are more prone to speeding and other shit.

So:

1) Get a CAMS license. It's cheaper than a speeding fine, and a lot more fun.

2) Pull your head in. Seriously. I love to push the go fast pedal too, but keep it off the public roads. There is so much that can happen that it's stupid to assume you'll be OK. Yes, speed limits are sometimes un-necessarily low, but that's just the way it is. ignoring them is simply stupid, especially in a 60 zone. If you were doing 130 in a 100 zone on the sydney - dubbo highway (i.e. dead straight, no wildlife or bushes, etc.) then that's careless. Doing it in front of homes is just stupid.

3) Do some advanced training. SAU has some great driver training courses that they can recommend and organise a few times a year. Learn to drift, corner and i think there's even one for driving on two wheels. Have crack, and bring friends.

4) stop driving my premiums up. I gotta save up for a high flow.

5) Wear the fine. You seem like you already know that you cocked up, and you've accepted it. This is a good attitude. It's always a temptation to give it a squirt, but you gotta keep in mind that it really is easy to hit something (say a cat) running across the road, which can then put you into a telepole, and into hospital.

I'm sure you know all this already, but just read over it a second time, then see what you want to do.

End.

Mate couldn't agree more. Last time I was pulled over totally minding my own business, 70 in a 80 zone they said to me "these cars are well known due to P platers, most drivers are younger and a lot more stupid that you." Thanks huh!

[HEKT1C]

yes i have learnt my lesson, wich is dont be a dickhead on roads, sum guy in a beemer who was behind me booted past me, cops chased me not him? i didnt race him? ah well well c when i go to court. the cars under dads company too, iv been pulled over like 3 times in the skyline iv had it for like uhhhh a week? they havnt said anything about power to weight, one cop just pulled me over to warn me to take it easy on takeing off in the wet, (it was a random chek up) he said that he was at a accident sceen like the day before where a skyline took of kicked it out into second and smacked into a pole (dont know how the hell that happend unless he was trying to go sideys?) but none of the times they said power to weight or nething bout my turbo.. well they probably will now, ah well ill keep it for another 6 months then when court comes and i get my licence loss then ill sell it, and pay of like a 5,000 fine lol, then maby get a vs or somthign after i get my licence back idk

thanks for the help evry1.

[Al]

Didn't take long hey Jason?

So let me understand what you wrote:

- "sum guy in a beemer who was behind me booted past me"

- "i droped it from 5th to 3rd"

- "cops chased me not him"

- "impounded on 3rd of july for 'street racing'"

So why did you drop it down to 3rd again?

What pedal did you press after the gear down; the accelerator or brake?

Sorry to say mate, cops are not stupid (and neither are we), and you were clearly way over 60, so their actions are 100% justified.

Also if they decide to throw everything at you; you'll get fined for power to weight and loose another 3 demerit points. These 3 points, attached to the 3 for speeding, will give you an additional 3 months suspension, on top of what you'll get for speeding/racing offense.