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Hi Guys,

I was just wondering if anyone has done advanced driveing school

Beacuse tomorrow i have to attend one and my question is,

Do they check your licence on the day?

If it is auto or manaul?

Because my car is manaul and i have an auto licence and i dont want to go there on the day

and they say sorry "You cant do it because you dont have a manaul licence".

Thankyou if you can leave your comments.

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What do you mean you "have" to do one? I dont get it.

I guess it depends on the company running the course, and thier insurance arrangements etc etc

i had to go to court for hoon charges and they are makeing me do one

Dont look it as "you must" dude. Embrace it.

Its going to benefit you more than you care to understand at this stage. Your driving a high powered car, and you dont know how to drive yet.

And heaven forbid, you will probably enjoy yourself to be honest :D

I've been on a number of courses and never had a bad one.

I've always walked away with a swag of things i didn't know before, and i wasn't even forced to go.

IMO - it should be mandatory for all P-platers, but that's a separate issue.

But as for your initial question, no-one but the course provider will be able to answer it accurately

okay

that sounds like defensive driving

get ready for a) hours of theory about general road safety b) stomping on your brake pedal all day because you have ABS and there's nothing else they need to teach you in regards to not locking your wheels up when doing an emergency stop.

have fun

okay

that sounds like defensive driving

get ready for a) hours of theory about general road safety b) stomping on your brake pedal all day because you have ABS and there's nothing else they need to teach you in regards to not locking your wheels up when doing an emergency stop.

have fun

hours i know it starts at 8:30 to 4:30 it one whole day. i rekkin its gunna be s**t as.

I have done a Jim Murcott course and it was a fun day, if you haven't done one you will learn a lot about your car, braking distances, reaction times in an emergency (not reaction times launching off the lights in a street drag at midnight out front Noble Park Maccas) and general road safety.

It's disapointing that you have a negative attitude towards this even though you have been charged with Hoon offences and never been to one of these. I don't know one person that has not enjoyed a defensive driving course.

Maybe you should come to one of our club sprints, get your car out on the track at Sandown and see how quick you can go, also see how you stack up to the rest of us on the track!

At SAU we have plenty of track events to cater for people that want to thrash their cars in a safe environment, you should give it a go. Then you'll find hooning on the streets a very boring past time.

Defensive driving courses teach everyone something, they are fun, enjoy it! Let us know how you go in this thread, I hope you come back with something constructive to say about the course.

P.S I don't think they'll check your licence, lol at your post Rchoo....

mate, they need to send you to an attitude adjustment school before they make you do a defensive driving course. i've done one (voluntary) and it was one of the most useful experiences i've ever had.

There's a lot of theory to go through, but the actual practical part is excellent experience.

That said, don't hoon and you won't have problems, will you?

i went to a defensive driving thing, and found it quite good. actually i would have liked more time getting my braking right. also if you got abs, do a few stops with abs to get the feel and then if u get a chance disable abs (if you can on ur car) and see the difference.

if you go with a good attitude and think of it as a good enjoyable day and you will get to learn more about your car, you may actually like it.

okay

that sounds like defensive driving

get ready for a) hours of theory about general road safety b) stomping on your brake pedal all day because you have ABS and there's nothing else they need to teach you in regards to not locking your wheels up when doing an emergency stop.

have fun

Its not about stomping the pedal IMO. :(

I've seen cars outbrake the ABS (skylines) on Driver Dynamics days i've done with Kev.

The ABS system isnt state of the art, its mid 90's in skylines.

If you tried, you can indeed outbrake the ABS quite easily. I've seen it first hand on 2 separate cars.

i did Jim Murcott's course at Sandown - very worth it

2nd and also 2nd ash's coments should be mandertry for allp-platers.

i got it as a birthday present of my parents and loved it (altho did it im my dads camery :( ) was well worth it, then went and did one with AAMI in my car and relised the complet diffrence between the two (dads well poised and handeld good, mine had massive body roll and understear).

while your at it should book for a level two and also a race lession (visit link fo the race crs http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/in...owtopic=175256)

have fun

Its not about stomping the pedal IMO. :(

I've seen cars outbrake the ABS (skylines) on Driver Dynamics days i've done with Kev.

The ABS system isnt state of the art, its mid 90's in skylines.

If you tried, you can indeed outbrake the ABS quite easily. I've seen it first hand on 2 separate cars.

definitely - also with the quality of the cars. i learnt this seeing brake distances between an astra and one of those special alfas of the same year with abs

okay anyway... i took a big negative attitude to this. but onyl because i compare murcotts courses to the fun i have at deca hehe. they teach various theories at murcotts, but the bulk of the practical stuff for level 1 defensive is 100% braking in the wet, which for people with ABS involves simply applying max braking. something especially important for those of us without abs.

b) stomping on your brake pedal all day because you have ABS ...
ABS is for idiots who don't know any better. I've activated the ABS on my 32, I think, twice in the time I've owned it (over 7 years!), and one of those was on the racetrack 2 weeks after I got it. But then, I learned threshhold braking (at a Murcott course) many years ago, and I know how to "read" the traffic conditions, so I don't get into situations where I need to "stomp on the brake pedal".

Don't think of it as punishment, embrace it as a learning experience, particulary since I doubt you ever actually learned how to "drive" (you learned how to get a licence).

I agree with Ash - it should be mandatory to do one of these courses to get off your Ps.

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