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sorry ben, but ur arguement is flawed. the flaw being drifinting aint a sport :(

well none of it is motorsport then.

if everyone pulled their heads outta the sand and got together like hot rod guys we would all be alot better off. The last time i checked the ASRF approved members cars while they were being built.

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i find that how they assess the quality of drift is too unrefined.

angle? speed? time between finishes? closeness?

how do the judges measure it? i saw a drift "battle" on video where they based who won by the loudness of the crowd.

it's like a gymnast event where the judges hold up numbers - based on what they personally/professionally feel, and no one REALLY considers gymnastics an event. nor does anyone think dancing with the stars a sport either.

see the trend? gymnast, dancing, drifting? pusseh? j/k

i see it as purely a fun, crowd pleaser type activity, but no way near sport level (yet?) where different aspects of your actions earn you a standardised set of points.

it's like a gymnast event where the judges hold up numbers - based on what they personally/professionally feel, and no one REALLY considers gymnastics an event. nor does anyone think dancing with the stars a sport either.

see the trend? gymnast, dancing, drifting? pusseh? j/k

i see it as purely a fun, crowd pleaser type activity, but no way near sport level (yet?) where different aspects of your actions earn you a standardised set of points.

shit, better go tell all those little 5 and 6 year old european kids to stop training now before they waste years of their life preparing for something the eug doesnt think is a sport.

you can see it as what you like but very thing has to start somewhere.

yes the standard of judging can be vague or nondescript at some events, but the bottom line is pass the other car under drfit condtions and you will beat them.

sorry ben, but ur arguement is flawed. the flaw being drifinting aint a sport :rofl:

tell that to the thousands of people who watch D1 GP....i'd watch drifting anyday over some of the other garbage...I like watching drag racing and circuit racing, but imho drift is just as good. People talking it up, saying it's so boring and easy, why don't you go in an event and put your skill to the test...then come back and tell us all how "easy" it is lol.

but the bottom line is pass the other car under drfit condtions and you will beat them.

so going by that very basic statement, if the trailing car dont pass, the guy infront wins?

:rofl:

tell that to the thousands of people who watch D1 GP....i'd watch drifting anyday over some of the other garbage...I like watching drag racing and circuit racing, but imho drift is just as good. People talking it up, saying it's so boring and easy, why don't you go in an event and put your skill to the test...then come back and tell us all how "easy" it is lol.

...here comes keegs from way out in left field :)

ive never said the drivers rnt skilled u toss, i said that the whole concept isnt a sport. read the whole convo yeah? :rofl:

tell that to the thousands of people who watch D1 GP....i'd watch drifting anyday over some of the other garbage...I like watching drag racing and circuit racing, but imho drift is just as good. People talking it up, saying it's so boring and easy, why don't you go in an event and put your skill to the test...then come back and tell us all how "easy" it is lol.

Well I watched most of the ashes series last year. That wasn't sport, it was a bloke kicking a dog.

Any sport at a reasonably competitive level is not easy. (but it may be boring, as in rugby league) People say I could do that about just about everything. Yeah, you can drive a car around a circuit. But if you are a few tenths shy in a controlled spec series you would be waaayyy down the back of the grid...

Being competent is easy. Being good is alot harder. Being a champion is harder still (& not something I will ever need conern myself about)

That holds true for every sport. How difficult it looks to a casual observer has no bearing on the degree of skill required to be a champion. Only the intensity of the competition does.

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so going by that very basic statement, if the trailing car dont pass, the guy infront wins?

no it means exactly what i said, if you pass the car in front you are 90% of the time given the win.

It comes down to the judging most of the time though cause it is extremely hard to pass.

but your missing the whole point that i was trying to make shane, it's all motorsport. The sooner all the different parties realise this and work together the sooner it will get better for everyone.

I agree drifting is for people who cant go fast straight or handle corners

Typical answer from someone who obviously can’t control a throttle and steering wheel at the same time while going side ways. Afraid you might come off the mountain?

I wana see this thread get another 3 pages with people trying to flame me

Typical answer from someone who obviously can’t control a throttle and steering wheel at the same time while going side ways. Afraid you might come off the mountain?

I wana see this thread get another 3 pages with people trying to flame me

why would we waste our time?

..Flame No. 1 :sorcerer:

obviously can’t control a throttle

Yeah drifters use heaps of throttle control. You need to keep your foot mashed to allow the engine to bounce of the rev limiter every 0.5 seconds. Now that is throttle control.

steering wheel...

Would that be on the rare occassion they are actually holding onto the wheel & not just letting the excessive castor do the steering for them?

How is that for flaming, I am only new to this....

Yeah drifters use heaps of throttle control. You need to keep your foot mashed to allow the engine to bounce of the rev limiter every 0.5 seconds. Now that is throttle control.

Would that be on the rare occassion they are actually holding onto the wheel & not just letting the excessive castor do the steering for them?

How is that for flaming, I am only new to this....

My "drift car" made enough power and enough down low to not need to bounce off the limiter like some little S13 or Sprinter bitch. But hey, my flames did rock at the 9000rpm limiter

I like your effort though, more so about the caster comment. B+, keep up the good work.

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