Getting Rid Of Clutch

[jantolis]

Hey guys i was just wondering your thoughts of getting rid of my jim berry clutch and putting back in the os giken twin plate.

I really don't think i like the single plate clutch feel. Seems to jerk alot more when disengaging(howerver it's spelt) and having a standard flywheel is really giving me the craps because of the lack of response. If i get a lightend flywheel i have to take the clutch out anyway to solve one of the problems so is it worth putting the twin plate back instead? The twin plate still has some meat on it and my car isn't really pushing heaps of power so it's not gonna eat through it quickly.

If you were in my situation what would you do?

Thanks for advice.

[benm]

Upgrade the flywheel, my old JB clutch was absolutely fantastic!

[jantolis]

I have no doubt that the clutch is good and will handle hard launches.

Is a single as good for track usage? Someone mentioned to me that twin's don't stress out some components as much every time you put the clutch in and out. Is this true?

I might give the lightened flywheel a go. Just sick of the crap response from the standard flywheel. AHHHHH i don't know what to do.

I might have to ponder on this for a bit.

[benm]

Just make sure you buy a brand new jap lightened flywheel...... dont lighten your factory flywheel because i'll happily post up pics of a JB clutch and stock flywheel after 40+ 8000rpm launches.

[jantolis]

lol... I think i've seen those pics before. Looked nasty.

[STATUS]

ORC, OSGIKEN NISMO all day long over JB clutches. Better feel... better everything.

[2rismo]

Feel is subjective so if you don't like it then change it.

Generic, brand name, comes-with-a-sticker clutches versus a clutch that is purpose built to the car and its usage? Not exactly a tough decision.

[STATUS]

Feel is subjective so if you don't like it then change it.

Generic, brand name, comes-with-a-sticker clutches versus a clutch that is purpose built to the car and its usage? Not exactly a tough decision.

exactly jb FTL

[2rismo]

exactly jb FTL

Umm, no. Generic shit (i.e. OS etc) FTL. Jim Berry's clutches are purpose built for each application.

[jantolis]

Umm, no. Generic shit (i.e. OS etc) FTL. Jim Berry's clutches are purpose built for each application.

His full monty clutch is off the shelf. He has them in stock. They aren't exactly built for each application and mine wasn't custom made. I'm sure he does have different versions to suite different needs though just as exedy, os, orc, etc do as well.

I'm not bagging the quality of them as they are great and have been proven to be almost unbreakable but i just feel i may have made a backwards step in how i wanted to get my car setup eventually. I might try a lightened flywheel as soon as i can to see if it feels any better driving it. I'm not gonna do anything real soon. I'm just gonna think about all the options first. I have busted two clutch boosters with my twin plate for various reasons so atleast getting the JB clutch will hopefully stop that issue.

[Abo Bob]

Mine was custom made by Jim for what it's worth.

[Swiper the Fox]

Mine was custom made by Jim for what it's worth.

X2

[SysLink67]

My Jim Berry clutch is great. Although it does shutter abit when trying to feather the clutch when parking on my drive way which as an incline. Could be just me....

Other wise bites like a MOFO.... Also does a clutch need readjustment after ex amount of k's to allow for wear...... clutch travel etc...

cheers

rob

[STATUS]

Umm, no. Generic shit (i.e. OS etc) FTL. Jim Berry's clutches are purpose built for each application.

HAHA he picks and chooses components to make up a clutch...... hardly custom.... and why would you need to get a custom (ie genuine custom made) clutch? there is so much on offer which offers advanteges? it just doesnt make sense. Some people just get talked into such babble.

i have seen these things and they are no better than anything else i have seen... worst of all the two ive driven were enough for me to stay well clear off.

Granted some cases where a person wants a specific combo he can provide it but i gaurantee you could find an equiv which does the same job already off the shelf in any other major manufactures cat..

[benm]

worst of all the two ive driven were enough for me to stay well clear off.

What is it you didn't like about them?

[SysLink67]

i think there are some personal issues perhaps....

[Abo Bob]

HAHA he picks and chooses components to make up a clutch...... hardly custom.... and why would you need to get a custom (ie genuine custom made) clutch? there is so much on offer which offers advanteges? it just doesnt make sense. Some people just get talked into such babble.

i have seen these things and they are no better than anything else i have seen... worst of all the two ive driven were enough for me to stay well clear off.

Granted some cases where a person wants a specific combo he can provide it but i gaurantee you could find an equiv which does the same job already off the shelf in any other major manufactures cat..

They cost a thousand dollars and can handle anything you throw at them. That's a walk in off the street price to anybody, not a special I have contacts everywhere and I get looked after price.

What else compares in this regard?

[r33_racer]

I use a npc clutch in case it matters...which it shouldnt. But the major thing ive noticed is the price between big jap brandname clutches and small time australian made clutches. 1000hp twin plate we use in circuit racing has been fine, i believe alot of drag racers use it also.

What does your average 1000hp big jap brandname clutch cost roughly? incase someone can get a sweet deal, to compare.

Edited October 12, 2007 by r33_racer

[2rismo]

**TALKING THROUGH ARSE**

Let me ask you a question. It's multiple choice so it shouldn't hurt too much:

Which of the following has spent the past 30 or so years exclusively making clutches for some of the biggest and best known race teams in the country as well as many thousands of performance street cars?

Is it:

A/ You

or

B/ Jim Berry

You are ill-equipped to comment if you haven't ordered, installed and dealt with dozens of clutches of each type. Every single clutch I've ever seen come from Jim came with a half hour (minimum) conversation about the car, the application, the expectations and the like. The service is excellent, the prices just plain shit all over brand name clutches and there are a massive number of happy customers using his gear up to and including some of the fastest and quickest race cars in the country.

You've got nothing, champ.

[SysLink67]

+1

besides "U ASS" advocates japan spec because its in his business interest.

Jim Berry's clutch's are cost effective, purpose built and service is beyond reproach.