Howard Vs Rudd

[GTR_STEALTH]

Im just curious as to what others here will be voting and their reasons why or why not?

...also, did anyone watch the debate last night? What did you think? What are your views on the various issues brought up?

[R-PWR]

Howard FTW!!!!!!!!!!!!

[R33GOD]

rudd !!

[Snowman]

Howard. The economy will go to shizen under Labour as it always does.

[R31Nismoid]

Ive already posted my bits here lol

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/t1...60#entry3425576

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/t190135.html

[jake33]

howard

[ylwgtr2]

[adznight]

Howard's a lying smug fu(ktard, Rudd will be a lying smug fu(ktard.

Yeah the ecconomy might go to shit with Rudd but at what cost does it do well with Howard. Can't afford a house, inflation it at it highest ever....and tax cuts, what a fu(ken laugh, we get tax cuts, then people spend more, we are no better off. It's one big fu(ken scam.

DONKEH for the win!

[SAM916]

howard....better for mining which is the industry i work in (i'm a shallow person....i just want bonuses )

[DivHunter]

You're clearly a Nazi-Commie-Hippy.

[SABBAi]

Adz for President!!!!!!!

[adznight]

Nazi-Commie-Hippy - Now there's one mixed up person! Kinda contradicting...

Commies had Nazi's under the thumb and a Nazi would fry a Hippy

[stolen_s15]

I think i'll vote Rudd at this stage for a few reasons;

1. Educatuion policy, I think university should be free, howard has made the system user pays and hence O/S students are buying our uni places.

2. Howard is a liar, plain and simple.

3. Howards IR laws disadvantage those who can least afford it, people who depend on penalty rates, loadings ect.

4. Rudd is addressing climate change, Howard wont even ratify Kyoto!

Thats said I am not 100% behind Rudd, I will continue to watch the campaign closely.

[ZENNON]

howard

[Bass Junky]

Howard.

We can't ratify Kyoto without severely disadvantaging ourselves in the global economy against higher polluters.

Ratifying Kyoto is simply a political point, and I completely agree with Howard's attitude to this.

If you've ever been in a business where idiots who do nothing, constantly mess up and basically fleece the employer because its so difficult to sack them you will be all for IR reforms.

BASS OUT

[djr81]

I think i'll vote Rudd at this stage for a few reasons;

1. Educatuion policy, I think university should be free, howard has made the system user pays and hence O/S students are buying our uni places.

2. Howard is a liar, plain and simple.

3. Howards IR laws disadvantage those who can least afford it, people who depend on penalty rates, loadings ect.

4. Rudd is addressing climate change, Howard wont even ratify Kyoto!

Thats said I am not 100% behind Rudd, I will continue to watch the campaign closely.

Hmm, interesting.

1. The Hawke/Keating government introduced the HECS (Higher Education Contribution Scheme) which means if you go to uni you pay the tax man. Plain & simple. O/S (full fee paying) student have been at our unis for many, many years. Good on them. Why should they be denied an education as well?

2. All politicians are liars. Plain & simple. Actually they are not. If you (or anyone else) had everything they ever said scrutinised & debated & misrepresented then you too (& me & everyone else) would be termed a liar. Rudd has the advantage of not having been around long enough to have piled up baggage.

3. Howard fkd up on the first change when they introduced the AWA's. But now that they have implemented a no disadvantage test covering the most important benifits you can't get little of no compensation for trading your penalty rates etc. Try working on a salary - you don't get any O/T, penalty rates or anything other than your salary. Not everyone works on wages or can even get access to AWA's.

4. Kyoto is a lame duck. Ratifying it will make bugger all difference. If Rudd had any bollocks he wouldn't be banging on about a target in 2050 - thats what four changes of government & 15 elections away. He would map out a short term target (say every year until 2020) & set out how he would achieve it. So would Howard. But they are both too gutless.

To finish: what I hate the most about this election is the me too, cloning that is going on in the policy areas. Weak as piss.

[DivHunter]

I think i'll vote Rudd at this stage for a few reasons;

1. Educatuion policy, I think university should be free, howard has made the system user pays and hence O/S students are buying our uni places.

2. Howard is a liar, plain and simple.

3. Howards IR laws disadvantage those who can least afford it, people who depend on penalty rates, loadings ect.

4. Rudd is addressing climate change, Howard wont even ratify Kyoto!

Thats said I am not 100% behind Rudd, I will continue to watch the campaign closely.

Wait, Labor is going to make uni spots free and stop international students? Where'd they say that and as if that makes any sense.

Rudd's not a liar though, hard to lie when you never answer a question.

You CANNOT be stripped of penalty rates, loading etc without compensation.

Rudd hasn't addressed anything, he's crapped on about studies that they commisioned that won't tell him anything until it will mean very little to this election. All he has done is made promises about carbon emissions when he'll most likely be dead.

[adznight]

That is all.

[ylwgtr2]

this man for pres....but unfortunatly he is dead

[adznight]

C'mon, how can you NOT want to vote for a man that dances like this!?

Ohhhh hang on, I thought we were talk about "Dancing with the Stars" - My bad