Gym And Supplement Discussion

[TTT]

You're right, but my mate tells me that he is barely adding any effort, so I am almost there..

you're still not understanding what I meant.

lets say you were on your 3rd set, and you did your 4th rep.

went down for the 5th, pressed and got half way up and couldn't get it any further, and the bar started to go downwards to crush you, your spotter should grab and lift it up, then rack it.

Saying he is not helping much and making you do another 3 past your sticking point is obviously not making you stronger or bigger because you've had the same issue for the past 6 weeks as you have said yourself.

The definition of Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.

I am up to 40kg military press behind the head, again 3 sets of 8.

sitting or standing

if sitting, with back support or without?

Dips I have only started doing recently, but I put 20kg in my lap otherwise I find them too easy.

When I said DIPS, I meant

Not

Edited May 30, 2012 by TTT

[SoFreshSoClean]

you're still not understanding what I meant.

lets say you were on your 3rd set, and you did your 4th rep.

went down for the 5th, pressed and got half way up and couldn't get it any further, and the bar started to go downwards to crush you, your spotter should grab and lift it up, then rack it.

Saying he is not helping much and making you do another 3 past your sticking point is obviously not making you stronger or bigger because you've had the same issue for the past 6 weeks as you have said yourself.

The definition of Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.

sitting or standing

if sitting, with back support or without?

When I said DIPS, I meant

Not

Dude I know what you meant.. the spotter shouldn't be there to help me get the rest of the set out, and I know that. It's not 'insane' to work at something and hope it will improve, that's the nature of what we are all doing lifting weights. Unfortunately I have hit a plateau, so that's why I've been asking for advice on what to change.

I do them standing, without support.

Yeh, I do dips like the second picture. I don't have a proper dip station at home yet.

[Birds]

lol @ his description when you open it up in YouTube

[NickR33]

my favourite comment: GET OUT OF THE GOD DAMN SQUAT RACK! lol

[tweety bird]

lol @ his description when you open it up in YouTube

wtf is that?

[tweety bird]

i lol'd at this.

(relevant to topic).

[Birds]

Haha I'm guilty of being on the phone and telling my mate to hold on for 30 seconds while I do a set.

This one has some good ones in it too

[-FIGJAM-]

haha at the "all you all you, not even helping"

[Birds]

Who here is in the 1000 club? If so, what's your body weight and height? What weights for each lift?

[God_speed]

This is based on 1RMs for each right? Is it assumed that one uses a 1RM calculator like the Brzycki equation, or must you have actually lifted the weight?

[Birds]

Pretty sure you have to lift it, average ~151kg per lift. Example could be 180kg deadlift / 160kg squat / 115kg bench.

Obviously going to favour those with strong and short legs (squat must be parallel or below, deadlift must be from ground and locked in, bench unassisted and touch the chest etc). Also a bit biased, given two leg / lower back exercises and only one chest / upper body.

I'm not a huge fan of 1RMs, have never attempted them for a few reasons, but I'm kind of intrigued by a measurement of overall body strength by combining the three big lifts. It at least seems a bit more extensive than just claiming individual 1RMs. Might have to give it a go to see where I sit for interest's sake.

Thanks for the calculator, that's pretty interesting in itself.

[dezz]

1000/3 = 333.33333333, not 151kg

[God_speed]

Dezz I believe it's supposed to be 1000lb, so 151kg = 332.2lb x 3 = ~1000.

Never really tried 1RMs myself. Don't often train with a spotter (which I would consider essential if doing an actual 1RM) so I wouldn't know for sure.

I have done 110kg BP using a smith (current gym has no free BP... yeah, I know) for a couple of reps; 180kg DL (3 sets of 5 reps); and 130kg squat for 5 reps. That would equate to 242 + 396 + 286 = 924, and that's not 1RMs. While I'm reasonably happy with those numbers (for me), I don't think that's all that impressive to be honest, so a "1,000 club" doesn't sound all that impressive to me at all, given there would be heaps of guys at my gym that'd smash my numbers and mine aren't even 1RMs. When you mentioned it Birds that is the first time I'd heard of it. It is an interesting way of trying to quantify and summarise one's strength though. I bet a lot of people (esp. on Internet) claim to be a part of this "club" as well regardless of their form...

Using that 1RM calculator , mine would be 249 + 445 + 322 = 1,016.

My BP in particular I'm particularly modest about. I want this to be at least 130kg / 286lb like a lot of the footy players that are my size (5'9, 82kg / 180lb) can lift. A put a lot of this down to my technique. I have also been told that because Smith restricts natural movement somewhat, one should be able to lift a little more with a free bar BP. But I take that with a grain of salt.

Cheers,

Matt

Edited May 31, 2012 by God_speed

[Birds]

I'm not sure how widespread it is in the real world, the first I'd heard of it is on the BB forums because almost everyone sticks their 1RMs in their sig. And yes it's supposed to be 1000 pounds. Not overly impressive, like I said you'll clear it fairly easy if you have strong legs, but still a benchmark like any other. I'm more interested in how light people have been and achieved it, thus I asked about body weight and height.

I'm guessing if Ronnie can do 800 pounds on the deadlift then a 2000 club wouldn't be out of the question and would definitely offer some impressive feats of strength.

Interesting thoughts about the smith machine...I can see advantages and disadvantages to it compared to freeweight. Less strength used for balancing, but restricted motion on the Y axis for the full body to do it's compound thing. A bias could help you rather than hinder, yet you've got the extra weight of the pole sliders. Then there's the mental idea of the smith machine feeling safer for a 1RM.

[TM7GTR]

I'm no where near these figures, mostly because I've never properly trained heavy for low reps. Doing strength training at the moment and benching 85 for 5 reps, squatting 100 for 5 reps, and romanian deadlifting 110 for 5 in the first week. This is at 182cm, 86.5kg.

[dezz]

My bench will always stop be from having a large number for the big 3

[TTT]

1149.5 for me.

but this is silly.

talking in LBS is like claiming hp at the engine after getting a dyno sheet which shows kw at the wheels just to make it look bigger :lol:

Birds.

There are 2 gyms I know of in Vic that you might want to just stroll in to and have a session.

get them to give you advice on form and tips for best leverages etc.

and try some 1rms under watchful eyes and spotters.

who knows, you might get addicted.

Not all powerlifters and round bellied, bearded hairy men.

Member on here (not sure if still active) Stolen_S15 is a competetive powerlifter.

Has recently been dieting.

just got to 7.5% @ 98kg and still squats over 220, benches close to 150 and deadlifts over 250 I believe.

I dare you to go give it a try.

Melbourne Uni

or

PTC at Frankston

[God_speed]

Powerlifters look bloody impressive when they cut up. Although I think they don't actually like being in that state and prefer to not have to restrict calories so they can get back to lifting maximum poundage

[-FIGJAM-]

anyone who trains hard and then diets correctly will look impressive.

I like the second pic of Arnie doing his dips, get a real good burn in the triceps when you hit 20+ reps

pounds are fine to count if you're american. What would you train the "club" to for us using the metric system? 1000kg club?

so do I squat a good weight for my height/weight? prior to knees playing up on me (from oztag) I was squating 100kg x 10 reps for 3 sets??

[TTT]

yeah there isn't really an off season (unless you are a pro and only compete 1 or 2 times a year)

for regular joe blogs as an example, just in qld, there are 2 official sanctioned comps (with one federation - there are others) and 2 GYM comps and probably another 2 just bench or PUSH PULL (bench and deadlift) comps.

Same goes for NSW, and VIC.

Perth is starting up and Adelaide and NT will be soon too.

the big pros will never cut down.

point is to lift more so why try to restrict food.

I was more saying it to Birds as he is much more in to appearance than lifted numbers etc.