10 4 Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 ^Hope the toilet seat is up... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/200767-gym-and-supplement-discussion/page/174/#findComment-6483475 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trozzle Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 ^Hope the toilet seat is up... lol screw you buddy This pain is actually worse than when I stacked it snowboarding and crushed my T5....same kind of acute cramping pain, but it doesn't want to go away with heat Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/200767-gym-and-supplement-discussion/page/174/#findComment-6483489 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birds Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 Maybe you're pushing it too hard Troy? Squatting and deadlifting big numbers for someone who's had a spinal injury. Tried stiff leggeds instead of regular deads? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/200767-gym-and-supplement-discussion/page/174/#findComment-6483509 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trozzle Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 If it's a result of pushing too hard, then the damage has already well and truly been done. Only a month ago my working weight for deadlifts was 130kg easy 8 reps. This pain is DEFINITELY no longer a result of just pushing too hard, it's what can only be described as an injury really (even if it's just a muscle that's been cramped up for a while). My spinal injury in my non-professional opinion has nothing to do with this current pain. Current pain I'm not even sure is where I'd classify as my 'back'. It's more in behind upper-central glutes. Stiff legged would hurt more than you could imagine. Right now I can't even bend forward enough to touch my knees without crouching. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/200767-gym-and-supplement-discussion/page/174/#findComment-6483522 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birds Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 So you're saying it's the motion and not the weight? What I meant is, if I had an injury like that I certainly wouldn't be doing triple figures on back exercises, even if it's not the cause of your pain right now. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/200767-gym-and-supplement-discussion/page/174/#findComment-6483555 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trozzle Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 So you're saying it's the motion and not the weight? What I meant is, if I had an injury like that I certainly wouldn't be doing triple figures on back exercises, even if it's not the cause of your pain right now. I'm not exercising with the pain lol, the pain isn't there until I do something like deadlifts...and even then, it's intermittent The motion triggers the pain (once there's load on certain muscles), and obviously weight makes it significantly worse - weight aggravated it this arvo and now bending over with no weight hurts like hell. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/200767-gym-and-supplement-discussion/page/174/#findComment-6483561 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitcho_7 Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 (edited) It's hard to e-diagnose, but I reckon it could be an sij issue. The sucky thing about that is there is so many things that can contribute to that. I reckon go and see a massage therapist at somewhere like clinic 88 (garunteed to get a good therapist there). I'd reccomend trying to see jimmy or brad at the Macquarie clinic because I know they are good. Brad may not be back from the olympics yet though... They also have a couple of exercise physiologists etc that do the rehab side of things as well and they all work in conjunction with each other. Take everything like X-rays scans etc that is relevant to you're injury history an explain what's going on. Edited August 12, 2012 by Mitcho_7 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/200767-gym-and-supplement-discussion/page/174/#findComment-6483627 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trozzle Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 sij? I'll look into going there, right now I'll do just about anything coz it's got me on the edge of my sanity not knowing what's causing it and being unable to do leg exercises... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/200767-gym-and-supplement-discussion/page/174/#findComment-6483697 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 I think he means sacroiliac joint Mate I'd just suggest voltaren 25's and rest for about 3 days. then physio if muscular pain, or an osteo or chiro if spinal joint/disc pain. I'm supposed to be competing this coming weekend and I've redone my injury with 2 sets of 3 on 140.. lol No idea why. Warmed up, stretched, lifted with perfect form, wasn't heavy... just f**ked! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/200767-gym-and-supplement-discussion/page/174/#findComment-6483707 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trozzle Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 I think he means sacroiliac joint Mate I'd just suggest voltaren 25's and rest for about 3 days. then physio if muscular pain, or an osteo or chiro if spinal joint/disc pain. I'm supposed to be competing this coming weekend and I've redone my injury with 2 sets of 3 on 140.. lol No idea why. Warmed up, stretched, lifted with perfect form, wasn't heavy... just f**ked! I've not touched deadlifts for about 3 weeks (though yes, I've done exercises that put similar stress on the area just significantly less) and I haven't even been to the gym since Monday coz I caught a cold for a couple of days... I don't know what it is though, could very well be disc problems causing muscles to cramp up around it (if that happens), could be just seriously tight/cramped muscles in the area, could be stress fracture (which the xray I got done on Thursday will likely show none of), could be nerve problem...I just want it diagnosed lol Cheers for the input as well though! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/200767-gym-and-supplement-discussion/page/174/#findComment-6483727 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trozzle Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 Looking into the symptoms for Sacroiliitis, sounds exactly like what I'm experiencing. Will drill the osteo on this when I see him. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/200767-gym-and-supplement-discussion/page/174/#findComment-6483737 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitcho_7 Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 Yeh, I meant sacroiliac joint. Definently get them to assess your legs, hips and lower back. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/200767-gym-and-supplement-discussion/page/174/#findComment-6483768 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel Kasko Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 Troy try telling Richard to ease up on you Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/200767-gym-and-supplement-discussion/page/174/#findComment-6483867 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trozzle Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 He's relentless Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/200767-gym-and-supplement-discussion/page/174/#findComment-6483900 Share on other sites More sharing options...
markos Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 (edited) injured? Go and see a good Chiro or physio big guy Edited August 13, 2012 by markos Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/200767-gym-and-supplement-discussion/page/174/#findComment-6484790 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trozzle Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 ALWAYS injured Markos after the above e-diagnosis of potential sacroiliitis, if that's the case there ain't much that can be done other than rest. If my osteo agrees on Wednesday then I'll likely just take a month or so off from doing any exercise that places load on the area (which is most of the good ones ) Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/200767-gym-and-supplement-discussion/page/174/#findComment-6484937 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R-SPEC Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 (edited) goodbye barbell military press hello handstand pushups another free weights excercise ditched profit Edited August 13, 2012 by R-SPEC Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/200767-gym-and-supplement-discussion/page/174/#findComment-6485353 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitcho_7 Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 goodbye barbell military press hello handstand pushups another free weights excercise ditched That's solid man, congrats! I wish I could do handstand push ups, still need to get an extra 20kg on the shoulder press before this can happen though haha Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/200767-gym-and-supplement-discussion/page/174/#findComment-6486215 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHOSTrun Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 That's solid man, congrats! I wish I could do handstand push ups, still need to get an extra 20kg on the shoulder press before this can happen though haha I find that strange becuase I remember when I was a kid I could do handstand pushups without any weight training. Personally I would not be ditching MP for handstand pushsups, but I'm sure R-SPEC has his reasons.. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/200767-gym-and-supplement-discussion/page/174/#findComment-6486297 Share on other sites More sharing options...
-FIGJAM- Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 the local Crossfit gym near me has been posting some of their event videos. Some of the shit they do looks real challenging. The staple workouts that they have online look to be pretty dam hard. Rekon I'd die giving them ago. I can see the appeal to it and power lifting comps though, the competition is motivation to push yourself harder and harder. not that it relates to any of the above conversations. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/200767-gym-and-supplement-discussion/page/174/#findComment-6486352 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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