Gym And Supplement Discussion

[some_cs_student]

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HITT

Hitting is not required, HIIT is good though.

[Mitcho_7]

Where is this dont eat carbs after 7pm thing coming from? Sounds like some dieting tip oprah preaches...

[Nee-san]

I'M TALKING DOWN TOWN !

[-FIGJAM-]

no carbs after 7 is an older rule. not going to go into all the ins and outs or the pros and cons to it now as I dont have the time.

plenty of professionals follow the rule (maybe not power lifters) and I am talking fighters, wrestlers, actors prior to shoots, etc.

[Mitcho_7]

I'm assuming it only applies if you are trying to lose weight, correct?

[TTT]

Read here....

http://www.leangains.com/2010/04/leangains-guide.html

and the rest of the site if you're bored.

when you eat what you eat means f**k all.

[TM7GTR]

No carbs after 7pm? Gain muscle? Fcking lol. You really think your body knows what time you're eating???

Screw fasting... I love food.

Just train more

[Mitcho_7]

No carbs after 7pm? Gain muscle? Fcking lol. You really think your body knows what time you're eating???

Screw fasting... I love food.

Just train more

My opinion exactly, nothing wrong with eating after 7pm if you are trying to build muscle. Especially if you only just finished at the gym, you definently need to get food into you.

[markos]

This information is for those overweight and are carb sensitive.

They should not eat processed carbs before bed

Those trying to gain muscle should be eating every 3 hours at least

Ant Tom, for the fatties, the body might not know what time it is (it does), but it does know if you need fuel for energy, and if it doesnt, it just stores the carbs for when it does............as fat.

So while some of the information posted is accurate, typicaly, not all of it is

[TM7GTR]

As you mentioned though, this applies mostly for endomorphs trying to lose weight.

If you're a gym going guy trying to gain size, you're cheating yourself if you try to limit your carb intake to earlier on in the day.

Personally I don't get back from the gym until around 9.30-10pm on most days, so late at night is one of the most important times for my nutrition.

Can't beat a big glass of milk before bed.

[markos]

Absolutely, it depends on your goals

The most success I've had with fatties is limiting carbs late in the day

[TM7GTR]

So I take it you train people at your gym with powerlifting techniques to help them lose weight?

If so, that changes it up from the norm quite a bit as all everyone else does is high rep ranges and circuit type work.

[markos]

Great question.

Here is what I do when I get new clients tell me they want to exercise to lose weight.

I get Max and the fattest client in the gym, Dave or Spiros etc

I explain they both train exactly the same, now do you think its the exercise or what they stick in their mouth?

Exercise burns around 500 calories an hour BUT if you walk or jog, once you stop your metabolic rate drops back to normal pretty much straight away, if youve been doing HEAVY resistance work it can stay elevated for hours, thus burning more calories

While all exercise is catabolic, heavy resistance training can promote an anabolic experience if provided with food straight after training, walking and jogging cant because you havent put enough load on your muscles.

Thats why squats are more effective than 10 isolation exercises done in the same workout, but the dumbest comment belongs to those that do exercises to "shape" a muscle. Idiots. You cant change your muscle insertions.

You listen to clowns saying preacher curls hits the lower bicep while concentration curls builds the peak. f**k I laugh when I hear that.

Someone please post up a pic of Arnold doing a double bicep. His right bicep is peaky while his left is long, I guess he trained each arm differently lol

I could go on for hours

For those interested I now write articles for Ironedge, read them here if you like

http://www.ironedge.com/blog/category/articles-by-author/markos/

[TM7GTR]

hehe yes, the old "shaping" bro-science.

I'm doing compound lifts right now with a slight diet alteration to cut bodyfat (yes I want to get a bit more ripped for summer) <-- lol-worthy but true

[TTT]

I'm also doing similar. Dropping about 7kg over 3 or 4 months to drop in to the lower division to have direct competition as there are about 3 others with similar lifts and age and height etc.

[markos]

Tolga, from memory you totaled around 510-520kg at Nats, but you were just over 90kg?

If so, are you going to play with Dan in the 82's, I thought he was going up

[TM7GTR]

I'm also doing similar. Dropping about 7kg over 3 or 4 months to drop in to the lower division to have direct competition as there are about 3 others with similar lifts and age and height etc.

Have you found your sessions difficult at all with the changes in your diet/drop of weight? Lifting around the same or less?

[Dani Boi]

I'm doing compound lifts right now with a slight diet alteration to cut bodyfat (yes I want to get a bit more ripped for summer) <-- lol-worthy but true

It isn't lol worthy, do what makes you happy. I'll cut in a month or so for about 4 weeks, dgaf what people think tbh.

[Trozzle]

I'm cutting RIGHT NOW. Lol. Half-arsed though.

[Birds]

Your scissors aren't sharp enough Troy