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Marlin Grand Master

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no you wont get shot. I will by the way thing are going around here...

I second that fo shizzle. :huh::D

The thing that in sure many wont agree with is that the GTR was fading fast and that was only after 5 laps although i will admit it was most likely a combination of tyres AND brakes. The cars too heavy.

Had the GT3 not been held up by its slower sister, i think things would have been very different.

The Brakes on the GTR would have to be the achilles heel of the car would they not?

Totally agree with you. A combination of tyres and brakes overheating after a few laps seemed the GTR's only flaw (very typical true road car traits those). And yep, it's all due to being a fat girl. Doesn't change the fact that that was an outstanding performance from a car in that price bracket, and bodes very well for the forthcoming V-Spec version!

As for whoever said the Gallardo Superleggara is a fully carbon bodied AND supercharged version, good God man, get a grip! It simply has a combination of carbon undertrays/interior panels/lexan engine cover, and some slight engine fettling like agressive tune and big throttle bodies etc. They still only make around 270 AWKW on a dyno dynamics, but they're a wonderfully light car, kinda like I wished the R35 had of been :domokun: (or may yet become!!)

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I didn't really think the GTR faded that fast (the old GTRs faded much faster IIRC). Anyone wanna paste the change in lap times? I think most of the race was battling through traffic, so the long term aspects weren't really covered well (I think the fastest lap was the last?).

No doubt the brakes will be an issue though you are quite right.

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1st Gallardo SL:1,01,599/1330kg/530ps

2nd NISSAN GT-R:1,02,125/1740kg/480ps

Half a second slower despite the HUGE weight and power differences, very impressive. Still can't get over that tough, 400 freakin kilo's heavier!!!

Basically what this all means is that the V-Spec is going to OWN ALL!!!! :D:domokun:

And if there is a V-Spec II or even an Z-Tune..... my goodness... :huh:

m3gtr Grand Master

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I didn't really think the GTR faded that fast (the old GTRs faded much faster IIRC). Anyone wanna paste the change in lap times? I think most of the race was battling through traffic, so the long term aspects weren't really covered well (I think the fastest lap was the last?).

No doubt the brakes will be an issue though you are quite right.

Note to self *+ send reminder to R35 Targa pilots of possible brake fade problems +*

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1st Gallardo SL:1,01,599/1330kg/530ps

2nd NISSAN GT-R:1,02,125/1740kg/480ps

Half a second slower despite the HUGE weight and power differences, very impressive. Still can't get over that tough, 400 freakin kilo's heavier!!!

Basically what this all means is that the V-Spec is going to OWN ALL!!!! :P:D

And if there is a V-Spec II or even an Z-Tune..... my goodness... :(

did someone pull a plug lead off the lambo? I demand a re-run with Paul Stokell peddelling it! They had to really knobble the Lambo and Fezza with inlet restrictors in Nations cup to bring them down to the Porsche GT3's lap times. I remember when they combined NC and GTP grids at Sandown the R32 golf would out-drag the Ferrari down the straights thanks to the tiny inlet restrictors.

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1st Gallardo SL:1,01,599/1330kg/530ps

2nd NISSAN GT-R:1,02,125/1740kg/480ps

Half a second slower despite the HUGE weight and power differences, very impressive. Still can't get over that tough, 400 freakin kilo's heavier!!!

Basically what this all means is that the V-Spec is going to OWN ALL!!!! :rant::down:

And if there is a V-Spec II or even an Z-Tune..... my goodness... :)

You could very well be right. But these vids are for entertainment only. I woudl not make the mistake of readign too much into the lap times etc. For one, the golden rule of different drivers. Also we dont knwo the condition on which the cars were leant to the program, so dont know hwo hard they were actually allowed to pedal them, are they dealers cars/private owners etc.

So thats part of it. But here is the reason i have a BIG problem with these comparisions. TYRES. HAs anyone noticed how from time to time the NSX Type R inherited semi slicks when up against the M3 CSL, 996 GT3 etc. I have seen other tests where i think it was an EVO has semi slick tyres and humbled Euro cars. These cars didnt come std with this rubber, and how well worn is the rubber on som eof the test vehicles they may have been lent for the program.

So anyway, my feeling is some cars are helped from tiem to time with tyres...so great entertainment...but i would suspect the LAmbo woudl hand it to the GTR on equyal tyres and equal drivers. But, then again, the torque from a 3.8l TT engine sure helps an AWD car jump out of corners

sav man Grand Master

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Note to self *+ send reminder to R35 Targa pilots of possible brake fade problems +*

There have been plenty of down 1700+ kg GT-R's here on std brakes, and the R33/R34 brakes arn't a patch on the R35 brakes. It will be very heavy on tyres though (esp if it can find R comps)

Duncan Grand Master

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semi slicks are looking very unliekly for the targa car. even if they downgrade to 19" rims (which just clear the brakes) there is only really 1 brand and size that gets them, some pirellis built for amg merc. not ideal.

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